Electric cars

They are currently just not as good or as practical as an internal combustion engine. There isn't a ev can that can realistically do over 400miles on a charge in real life conditions. Most cant do anywhere near 300. A friend of ours has a £90k audi electric e tron q4. It does significantly less than 175miles. My 10yr old Audi A6 does over 600 on a single tank at over 54mpg. It takes 5mins to fill. It's done over 150k mls doesnt depreciate really and is therefore massively cheaper to run than any ev car and much more convenient. Until ev cars can get near those stats they will always be second best in most people's eyes as they don't suit the majority of car users lifestyles and budgets. If and when they get there I will buy one.

How often do you realistically do more than 200 miles in one go, without stopping? Rapid chargers are popping up everywhere and can add miles faster than I can drink a coffee.

For my needs it works, but for others it may not. But ultimately it is a car - four wheels, a pedal to go, a pedal to stop and a steering wheel.

I add around 600 miles a week in a few seconds when I plug in when I get home each day and wake up with a full charge which costs me a few quid.
 
How often do you realistically do more than 200 miles in one go, without stopping? Rapid chargers are popping up everywhere and can add miles faster than I can drink a coffee.

For my needs it works, but for others it may not. But ultimately it is a car - four wheels, a pedal to go, a pedal to stop and a steering wheel.

I add around 600 miles a week in a few seconds when I plug in when I get home each day and wake up with a full charge which costs me a few quid.
Pretty often in fact. I drive alot for site meetings. I also regularly drive to the lakes for a days hill walking. Very little ev charging infrastructure in places like the lakes and other rural areas. If I drove 500 or 600 miles a month and mostly local I would consider an ev. But I don't.
 
Chances are they'll never do those kind of ranges as they're just not designed to do it but then the vast majority of people aren't doing those kind of miles. There are meanwhile however tons of people driving polluting diesels despite the fact that they don't even really need diesel range.

Since COVID I've barely pushed past 6000 miles per year and I'm sure many are similar now that office workers are working from home more. I just had no need for a diesel anymore and the economics of the EV still beat a comparable new petrol.

The charging networks will only get better in time. I've done one or two trips to the lakes and Tebay services was in the news over Christmas with the queues so in response they've since put in 20+ new uprated chargers. You won't see a positive story like that in the mostly anti-EV media of course!
20 you say?
Whoopdedoo!
 
Pretty often in fact. I drive alot for site meetings. I also regularly drive to the lakes for a days hill walking. Very little ev charging infrastructure in places like the lakes and other rural areas. If I drove 500 or 600 miles a month and mostly local I would consider an ev. But I don't.
The place where I work have banned the sales guys from ordering fully electric vehicles as company cars. Simply not practical. The four guys who do have them have all said they knew they had made a huge mistake after a week. Hybrid now for tax reasons is the policy.
 
The place where I work have banned the sales guys from ordering fully electric vehicles as company cars. Simply not practical. The four guys who do have them have all said they knew they had made a huge mistake after a week. Hybrid now for tax reasons is the policy.
I've heard similar stories.
 
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Just notice on driving around that alot more car parks are putting more charging points in.
This uses up two parking bays, one for the car and one for the charging units. But the car only has to pay for one space even though they are using two spaces. They should be paying for two spaces.



Runs to get tin hat lol
 
Just notice on driving around that alot more car parks are putting more charging points in.
This uses up two parking bays, one for the car and one for the charging units. But the car only has to pay for one space even though they are using two spaces. They should be paying for two spaces.
I think it's even worse than that Gordon. They don't actually pay anything to park when they use these charging bays!
 
Just notice on driving around that alot more car parks are putting more charging points in.
This uses up two parking bays, one for the car and one for the charging units. But the car only has to pay for one space even though they are using two spaces. They should be paying for two spaces.



Runs to get tin hat lol

no, wrong again. Never seen or been to a charging bay that takes up a parking space.
I think it's even worse than that Gordon. They don't actually pay anything to park when they use these charging bays!
Wrong again, you do pay to park just like everyone else.
 
I think it's even worse than that Gordon. They don't actually pay anything to park when they use these charging bays!

The ones I have seen in Cornwall the car driver does pay for one space but not the charging bay space.
It's a car park we have used for a few years now but it has less capacity now as about 15 spaces have been lost to charging bays.
Seems abit unfair to lose parking bays for ordinary cars for this 2 ton electric cars ;)
 
How often do you realistically do more than 200 miles in one go, without stopping? Rapid chargers are popping up everywhere and can add miles faster than I can drink a coffee.

For my needs it works, but for others it may not. But ultimately it is a car - four wheels, a pedal to go, a pedal to stop and a steering wheel.

I add around 600 miles a week in a few seconds when I plug in when I get home each day and wake up with a full charge which costs me a few quid.
I'm guessing that you don't live in a flat or terraced house with no off street parking. In a perfect world, perfect solutions would work perfectly. As it is our urban infrastructure will never be able to live up to the demands of the 'all electric' war cry.
Only my opinion of course but I dare say people will be having the same argument in years to come when the hydrogen revolution is top of the pops.
 

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