Electric cars

[crublue1]

What we have here in my opinion is all the manufacturers are trying to con you into thinking that they are at the forefront of battery/ ev technology.

The simple truth is that a battery is a battery.

It's not rocket science boys and girls, they pretty much use the same cell, found in many devices. They join them up in clever ways and hook up management software, but it's not very effective, and not efficient.

Spend some time looking at horsepower and where it comes from, and you quickly realise that petrol pisses all over electricity.
Not sustainable, granted. We can't keep raping the planet, but the electric con is a disgrace.

 

[crublue1]

So the future is in garden shed's? When will the Spinning Jenny be released?

He made a good point to be fair.
Battery, if that's the way we're going, should absolutely be standardised.
It won't be though, as individual manufacturers try to make money.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Yeah right so the issue is the disputed size of an EV not the infrastructure etc?

Well maybe it's also a poor entry in the EV field. How does it compare against those on the list for rage?

Of course infrastructure is a bit crap when you can get twats parking in electric vehicle bays for hours at a time without consequence. It wouldn't be that hard to restrict access to vehicles that could had credentials to prove they were EVs.

 

[crublue1]

My apprentice at work has designed a good solution as part of his college work.
He suggests a drive through battery change, but the battery must be a set size and location, beneath the car.
You drive up, the battery releases, and a fresh one is installed.
That's how it will work, this ev thing, anything else is a step backwards.

 

[bluethrunthru]

He made a good point to be fair.
Battery, if that's the way we're going, should absolutely be standardised.
It won't be though, as individual manufacturers try to make money.

If you can't get a standardised charger on phones/laptops etc whats the chance on cars?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Well maybe it's also a poor entry in the EV field. How does it compare against those on the list for rage?

Of course infrastructure is a bit crap when you can get twats parking in electric vehicle bays for hours at a time without consequence. It wouldn't be that hard to restrict access to vehicles that could had credentials to prove they were EVs.

well thats your view - he had something similar with a diesel engine prior - suited his family and his lifestyle - yes he could have got an UP! EV and put his family on the bus I suppose

 

[crublue1]

If you can't get a standardised charger on phones/laptops etc whats the chance on cars?

There isn't a chance mate, and that's the sad thing.

We have the opportunity to make the biggest step to change how we treat our planet, ever.

We have learnt so many things, experimented, researched, invented, and documented our findings.

It's all about money my friend, all about money.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

well thats your view - he had something similar with a diesel engine prior - suited his family and his lifestyle - yes he could have got an UP! EV and put his family on the bus I suppose

Really? Even the two door model has four seats.

At least he has stopped poisoning the air with particulates and NOx.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

If you can't get a standardised charger on phones/laptops etc whats the chance on cars?

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[bluethrunthru]

Really? Even the two door model has four seats.

At least he has stopped poisoning the air with particulates and NOx.

He has 3 kids and a dog

 

[bluethrunthru]

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Do EU rules apply here? Surely a Brexit win is 250 chargers per person per device in a lifetime? We won't be forced to buy a single charger for all devices by unelected Brussels bureaucrats surely?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

He has 3 kids and a dog

Correction, it should be 5. Tight fit, put the dog in the boot or trade it in for smaller breed? :)

 

[crublue1]

Really? Even the two door model has four seats.

At least he has stopped poisoning the air with particulates and NOx.

Which he is entitled to do according to current law.

What he shouldn't have to do is justify his current mode of transport which was actively encouraged by the government at the time, and also, not feel guilty for not falling for the ev bollocks

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Do EU rules apply here? Surely a Brexit win is 250 chargers per person per device in a lifetime? We won't be forced to buy a single charger for all devices by unelected Brussels bureaucrats surely?

Why would phone manufacturers produce different phone models to sell in the UK to sell you a different cable that might make them at most £20 for a replacement?

If Apple has to produce usb-c iphones for the European market they won't be shipping any with lightning chargers to the UK.

 

[RP2]

What we have here in my opinion is all the manufacturers are trying to con you into thinking that they are at the forefront of battery/ ev technology.

The simple truth is that a battery is a battery.

It's not rocket science boys and girls, they pretty much use the same cell, found in many devices. They join them up in clever ways and hook up management software, but it's not very effective, and not efficient.

Spend some time looking at horsepower and where it comes from, and you quickly realise that petrol pisses all over electricity.
Not sustainable, granted. We can't keep raping the planet, but the electric con is a disgrace.

Rubbish!
Batteries are the new computer chips - manufacturers looking to reduce size/increase capacity/speed up charge all the time. EV's have come a LONG in the last few years.
There's still a long way to go, but to call it an electric con is very blinkered.

 

[crublue1]

Rubbish!
Batteries are the new computer chips - manufacturers looking to reduce size/increase capacity/speed up charge all the time. EV's have come a LONG in the last few years.
There's still a long way to go, but to call it an electric con is very blinkered.

Lol.
Batteries are the new computer chips? Really? Fuck me.
Manufacturers are "looking" ? Ha ha brilliant.
Do some homework fella.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Which he is entitled to do according to current law.

What he shouldn't have to do is justify his current mode of transport which was actively encouraged by the government at the time, and also, not feel guilty for not falling for the ev bollocks

He is legally allowed to, I do not like the idea of being "entitled" to pollute the air in urban and residential areas and using a dirtier fuel to save a few quid even though it bears a greater responsibility for deaths from air pollution and damage to developing lungs.

He wasn't driving a bus, taxi or HGV....

Why couldn't he drive a petrol car instead?

 

[crublue1]

He is legally allowed to, I do not like the idea of being "entitled" to pollute the air in urban and residential areas and using a dirtier fuel to save a few quid even though it bears a greater responsibility for deaths from air pollution and damage to developing lungs.

He wasn't driving a bus, taxi or HGV....

Why couldn't he drive a petrol car instead?

dunno mate, ask him.

I get your point, but why would your average motorist swap a perfectly good car for an ev, given the costs involved?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Correction, it should be 5. Tight fit, put the dog in the boot or trade it in for smaller breed? :)

Have you seen the fucking boot on an UP! ? Will barely accommodate a baguette never mind a Labrador

 

[bluethrunthru]

Correction, it should be 5. Tight fit, put the dog in the boot or trade it in for smaller breed? :)

The UP! has 4 belted seats