Blue Maverick
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Teslas are also made in Germany now, apparently the build quality difference between usa, China Germany is quite stark.UK Teslas and the Renault 5 are made in China…
Teslas are also made in Germany now, apparently the build quality difference between usa, China Germany is quite stark.UK Teslas and the Renault 5 are made in China…
Saw one on YouTube looks like the old Renault 5 turbo that was a beast.Saw quite a few electric cars walking around town yesterday. Including Chinese manufacturers I'd never heard of before.
In typical Chinese fashion though I would say they are trying to copy the Tesla with it's minimalistic/plain styling rather than trying to have their own identity. The ones I saw including the Tesla itself aren't all that exciting.
The electric car that looked by far the best to me was the Renault 5 Electric. Such a bold design but one that suits the character of the car.
I think you missed the bit that i also get cheaper peak rate because it's an EV tariff. So even if i use it "when i want", it is still cheaper. I also get free days/hours randomly. Called Sunday saver.and that is the bollocks why even though I have a full EV I will never go on one of these overnight cheapo spilt tariffs - I use electricity when I want to, not when a slimeball leccy company says so.

We nearly got the wife a plug in hybrid. We reasoned that she would do a lot of mileage on the battery alone. Then could go for a long run on petrol as needed.Get a plug in hybrid. Best of both worlds.
Completely correct, I have a BYD Atto3 and absolutely love it, fully kitted out with every gizmo, it even drives itself, but trying to convince my work colleagues is another matter, they all want BMW i4 M50's 3 times monthly payments for a car not as kitted out as mine. The legacy companies know this, and hence while I feel their a few years behind the Chinese.Some of the stuff coming out of China is amazing.
The Chinese are leading the way with EV's. We should all be thankful, as legacy car makers were leaning on their heels. We are getting better/quicker battery tech and EV's directly due to the Chinese.
The Germans are in particular are playing catch up.
The only thing negative with Chinese EV's is the dealer network isn't the best.
If they correct that, then we all benefit.
It's the badge they want.Completely correct, I have a BYD Atto3 and absolutely love it, fully kitted out with every gizmo, it even drives itself, but trying to convince my work colleagues is another matter, they all want BMW i4 M50's 3 times monthly payments for a car not as kitted out as mine. The legacy companies know this, and hence while I feel their a few years behind the Chinese.
This could be a huge advancement in the latest technology!! So when the batteries need charging after they’ve been parked up, they can walk to the nearest charging point and charge themselves up?? Cool!!Saw quite a few electric cars walking around town yesterday.
This could be a huge advancement in the latest technology!! So when the batteries need charging after they’ve been parked up, they can walk to the nearest charging point and charge themselves up?? Cool!!
Ah, but who would plug it in?You might actually be onto something there! For people without easy access to a charging point your car could drive to a charging point autonomously at your convenience i.e at night when you're sleeping...
Ah, but who would plug it in?
Like the early days of mobile phone networks, I expect the consumer will get hammered to pay for the infrastructure growth.More chargers are great, but lowering the prices is where the direction needs to go.
There are deals/clubs/subscriptions that help. And there are signs of price wars. Maybe EV makers can do deals with these charge companies to help sales. Ie drive a Renault and get x amount off/free charging at x stations. Similar to what Tesla offers.
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What car is it?We nearly got the wife a plug in hybrid. We reasoned that she would do a lot of mileage on the battery alone. Then could go for a long run on petrol as needed.
The downside side will be when they get older. Two systems to maintain etc. Having said that, i haven't heard many stories they they are any more trouble than an EV or ICE car. Maybe the lower ICE miles saves the engine wear and tear. Regen braking will also save the brakes, the same as EV.
A big plus is no emissions round town. I'm not a environmentalist, but not breathing in toxic fumes has to be a great thing.
So i can totally see why plug-in hybrid is the best solution for some. Pop it on charge while shopping at Tesco's, and the smaller battery will be topped up. Great for those without a home charger. The slower chargers are way cheaper as well.
It was driving both that tipped the balance for us. With EV driving ranges improving daily, we just took the plunge.
Just had its first major service. £137 including cabin filter. Still think that is expensive for what is basically a safety check.
Been to Manchester-York and back today in hers. About 150 miles. Car still has around 140 miles left. Plug it in tonight, and for less than a fiver, full range tomorrow.
The scary thing is, some Tesla's can already do this. The charge point is automated as well.This could be a huge advancement in the latest technology!! So when the batteries need charging after they’ve been parked up, they can walk to the nearest charging point and charge themselves up?? Cool!!