Eliaquim Mangala

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Xiphos said:
What happened to the Mangala that made his debut against Chelsea, watched that game in a bar in Crete, even Chelsea fans were impressed...sigh
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Nothing, that mangala is still at city, it's the style of football that has changed, put him against good old style centre forward like costa, he's quality, put him against a forward who's movement, dropping deep, all over the place type is where he comes unstuck, not comfortable on the ball either so that won't help
 
He got his freebie on loan to Valencia for a season when we forked out his wages and got fuck all for him.

Now either Inter pay up £23m or he can ask Palace for a transfer there next season.
 
pudge said:
He got his freebie on loan to Valencia for a season when we forked out his wages and got fuck all for him.

Now either Inter pay up £23m or he can ask Palace for a transfer there next season.
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That's not how it works though is it ?

He wants Inter, Inter want to pay f**k all, and only want a loan, City refuse Inter, offer him WBA, or Palace, he says no, we say don't play then, he says fine, we pay his (probably large) wage for another year for nothing, and are stuck with a very unhappy player in a years time.

At least if we let him go to Inter, we can insist on them paying his full wage, and that is better to the club than us paying it, and getting no use out of it, and the player is much happier for the chance to play.

Remember, its not his fault he doesn't fit in here, and City agreed to pay him what we did, so we should help him get the best he can for him. If that is Palace/WBA, great, but if not it would be better for all parties if we get all his wage off the books for a season.
 
cleavers said:
That's not how it works though is it ?

He wants Inter, Inter want to pay f**k all, and only want a loan, City refuse Inter, offer him WBA, or Palace, he says no, we say don't play then, he says fine, we pay his (probably large) wage for another year for nothing, and are stuck with a very unhappy player in a years time.

At least if we let him go to Inter, we can insist on them paying his full wage, and that is better to the club than us paying it, and getting no use out of it, and the player is much happier for the chance to play.

Remember, its not his fault he doesn't fit in here, and City agreed to pay him what we did, so we should help him get the best he can for him. If that is Palace/WBA, great, but if not it would be better for all parties if we get all his wage off the books for a season.
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Problem being Inter will want us to pay his wages
 
cleavers said:
That's not how it works though is it ?

He wants Inter, Inter want to pay f**k all, and only want a loan, City refuse Inter, offer him WBA, or Palace, he says no, we say don't play then, he says fine, we pay his (probably large) wage for another year for nothing, and are stuck with a very unhappy player in a years time.

At least if we let him go to Inter, we can insist on them paying his full wage, and that is better to the club than us paying it, and getting no use out of it, and the player is much happier for the chance to play.

Remember, its not his fault he doesn't fit in here, and City agreed to pay him what we did, so we should help him get the best he can for him. If that is Palace/WBA, great, but if not it would be better for all parties if we get all his wage off the books for a season.
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Correct. He's seen so many City players do the same thing too. You can't blame them either.
 
cleavers said:
They can't expect us to pay them all, so even getting some off the books is better than none, and we have the upper hand there, because we can simply say no, unless they pay as much as we request.
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Would love us to say no but not too many times in the past have we quite managed it

Better for us he goes for a fee but for the lad he wants Inter

If we don't sign JFE hopefully then would like him to stay
 
cleavers said:
That's not how it works though is it ?

He wants Inter, Inter want to pay f**k all, and only want a loan, City refuse Inter, offer him WBA, or Palace, he says no, we say don't play then, he says fine, we pay his (probably large) wage for another year for nothing, and are stuck with a very unhappy player in a years time.

At least if we let him go to Inter, we can insist on them paying his full wage, and that is better to the club than us paying it, and getting no use out of it, and the player is much happier for the chance to play.

Remember, its not his fault he doesn't fit in here, and City agreed to pay him what we did, so we should help him get the best he can for him. If that is Palace/WBA, great, but if not it would be better for all parties if we get all his wage off the books for a season.
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Well said.

We signed the guy on a 5 year contract and WE want him out.

Why should he take a wage cut or go to a club that he does not fancy......
 
Where is
Silva_Spell said:
"finished article"
Ederson, 23
Mendy, 22
Bernardo, 22
Stones, 21
Sane, 20
G.Jesus, 19

Pep is a great coach but Mangala is unworkable and he certainly did look out of place in preseason.

Stop worrying about money. Oxlade Chamberlain with 1 yr on his contract just went for £40m. Coutinho is going for £120+m
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Where is the evidence that he is a great coach.( I'm talking about at city) because I have yet to see it. Terrible record against the top teams and can't coach defenders to save his life. Never mind Mangala stones hasn't exactly shone under pep either. Someday he might be a great coach at city but that day is quite a bit away yet.
 
B\connellblue said:
Where is

Where is the evidence that he is a great coach.( I'm talking about at city) because I have yet to see it. Terrible record against the top teams and can't coach defenders to save his life. Never mind Mangala stones hasn't exactly shone under pep either. Someday he might be a great coach at city but that day is quite a bit away yet.
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Lol
 
I like the lad but if he turns down this move to Palace he is dead to me. No chance at City and just doesn't seem to care about the club anymore, turning down concrete offers so we'll pay him to live somewhere fancy for a year. Inter don't even bloody want him, they're after Mustafi first and the President has said they're done for the window.

Palace made Sakho look like a decent defender, they will make you look fantastic and if you want to live somewhere nice I'm sure London isn't that bad with the wallet you're packing. Do yourself and the club a favour, please!
 
Can't really blame Mangala for waiting until the last minute before deciding which club to join. Just hope he isn't being given unrealistic expectations by his agent about his options.
 
So we have a cash offer from Mangala who wants to wait for Inter while we can't buy a replacement until his future is resolved?

Fantastic we're going to end up keeping Mangala who we don't want and doesn't want to be here because he prefers to be Inter's back up centre back
 
shak said:
I like the lad but if he turns down this move to Palace he is dead to me. No chance at City and just doesn't seem to care about the club anymore, turning down concrete offers so we'll pay him to live somewhere fancy for a year. Inter don't even bloody want him, they're after Mustafi first and the President has said they're done for the window.

Palace made Sakho look like a decent defender, they will make you look fantastic and if you want to live somewhere nice I'm sure London isn't that bad with the wallet you're packing. Do yourself and the club a favour, please!
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Sorry but I take issue with this since when has Mangala had his arse out threatening to take his bat and ball in etc. Under the circumstances he has behaved exceptionally well. Writing him off like this is plain wrong he could well be staying and be given a second chance.
 
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