Elon Musk

ballbag said:
I'd imagine if anyone gets caught doing this they'll become an unperson.
if nobody gets caught doing this then entire police forces are getting some DOGE streamlining.
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The irony is that incidents of criminality like this cause the least financial harm because the dealer is (a) likely to be a franchise and (b) will probably be fully insured.

The real harm is the level of dissatisfaction this kind of thing reveals.

It is in the alarming drop in sales in such a short period that the real harm lies. People are voting with their wallets.
 
Chris in London said:
The irony is that incidents of criminality like this cause the least financial harm because the dealer is (a) likely to be a franchise and (b) will probably be fully insured.

The real harm is the level of dissatisfaction this kind of thing reveals.

It is in the alarming drop in sales in such a short period that the real harm lies. People are voting with their wallets.
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I'm in no way advocating attacks on people's property, but a potential tesla buyer seeing and hearing of incidents such as this will surely have second thoughts on purchasing an item that is a target for vandalism
 
r.soleofsalford said:
Great news, just that that **** isn’t getting everything his own way but such a shame for the people employed by the ****.
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bluethrunthru said:
he is feeling it

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It would not surprise me if the Tesla board are looking at reports saying sales forecasts need to come down 75% for this year.

And costs need to go up 10% if they continue producing cars at current rates.

What are the solutions. Get rid of Musk is the only thing that could materially change the outlook.

Otherwise it's a difficult choice of close down some production capacity and just try to weather the storm.
 
I do think a problem for Tesla even before Musk went full Nazi is that A) while they were instrumental in setting up a charging network in the US, EV drivers are much less dependent on them, B) the market is full of better and cheaper EVs, which means you've only got brand value and the bran value is tanking and C) the stock has always been massively, embarrassingly overpriced built around a cult of personality. Domestic robots, colonizing Mars, big talk. None of it is happening, and people are seeing up close how much of a bullshitter he is and how thinly spread he is.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
I do think a problem for Tesla even before Musk went full Nazi is that A) while they were instrumental in setting up a charging network in the US, EV drivers are much less dependent on them, B) the market is full of better and cheaper EVs, which means you've only got brand value and the bran value is tanking and C) the stock has always been massively, embarrassingly overpriced built around a cult of personality. Domestic robots, colonizing Mars, big talk. None of it is happening, and people are seeing up close how much of a bullshitter he is and how thinly spread he is.
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Hmm I think it's very far-fetched to say that none of it is happening, certainly in terms of space. It's also certainly silly because it isn't like anybody else will go anywhere near close if it weren't for SpaceX.

Remove SpaceX from the launch industry and the launch industry no longer exists.

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inbetween said:
Hmm I think it's very far-fetched to say that none of it is happening, certainly in terms of space. It's also certainly silly because it isn't like anybody else will go anywhere near close if it weren't for SpaceX.

Remove SpaceX from the launch industry and the launch industry no longer exists.

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If you think it's far fetched to say that no one is colonizing Mars, in the short, medium or long term, then I have some SpaceX shares to sell you. ;)
 
inbetween said:
Hmm I think it's very far-fetched to say that none of it is happening, certainly in terms of space. It's also certainly silly because it isn't like anybody else will go anywhere near close if it weren't for SpaceX.

Remove SpaceX from the launch industry and the launch industry no longer exists.

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Still coming up with some top shite. Kudos to you.

That little graph of yours doesn’t rebut anything he said. It’s certainly not remotely close to colonising fucking Mars.
 
SWP's back said:
Still coming up with some top shite. Kudos to you.

That little graph of yours doesn’t rebut anything he said. It’s certainly not remotely close to colonising fucking Mars.
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It's a ridiculous statement though. The risk of it happening or not happening doesn't even fall upon SpaceX specifically as a company. It all depends upon whether resources can be made available to do it.

The entire annual NASA budget today is $25bn which in today's money is less than 50% of what the US made available to go to the moon so why should anybody be surprised? This is like saying a UK launch industry could do better, well yeah if we put £25bn quid into it per year then maybe it could but we ain't got £25bn quid.

The biggest change that SpaceX has made to the launch industry is the huge reduction in launch costs. That was the main blocker because currently if you gave a contract to ULA or similar then the entire NASA budget would be gone after a handful of launches which is why SLS is a shambles.

If you want to blame somebody for not getting close to Mars then blame the bloody US government who need to fund it.
 
inbetween said:
It's a ridiculous statement though. The risk of it happening or not happening doesn't even fall upon SpaceX specifically as a company. It all depends upon whether resources can be made available to do it.

The entire annual NASA budget today is $25bn which in today's money is less than 50% of what the US made available to go to the moon so why should anybody be surprised? This is like saying the UK launch industry should do better, well yeah if we put £25bn quid into it per year then maybe it could be but we ain't got £25bn quid.

The biggest change that SpaceX has made to the launch industry is the huge reduction in launch costs. That was the main blocker because currently if you gave a contract to ULA or similar then the entire NASA budget would be gone after a handful of launches which is why SLS is a shambles.

If you want to blame somebody for not getting close to Mars then blame the bloody US government who need to fund it.
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Total Recall wasn’t a documentary. Mars will never be colonised.
 
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