England v Belgium | Friendly | Match Thread

[SebastianBlue]

Rodri can actually be pretty arrogant, himself. It’s generally required to get anywhere near the top level. You have to have supreme confidence in yourself to the point of coming off as overestimating your own abilities just to make it through the gauntlet.

He is just also very intelligent and selfless, so it normally comes of as assertiveness and leadership. His arrogance is channeled for comprehensively positive impact.

The issue with Bellingham is that he is not only the run-of-the-mill arrogant, he is selfish and actually self-important. He’s starting to internalise the reverence coming from every direction, which is changing not only how he plays but how he sees his place relative to everyone else.

Someone prominent that has been there themselves needs to have a word with him about it. I think Zidane would actually be a decent candidate.

Otherwise he is going down a self-destructive path.

 

[i kne albert davy]

He isn't a special player.

He'll have his arse handed to him by us in the CL despite all the hype from BT about him pre game.

He could become one of the greatest but he shitted out of being that by joing Real Madrid where he can be mollycoddled into believing he's better than he is. Rather than have a coach that would have made him work his bollocks off to be the best and not to act the **** with it.

He's an arrogant cock.

Not overly impressed then.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Southgate has some nerve celebrating like that.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Not overly impressed then.

I'm sitting on the fence with him if I'm being honest.

 

[argyle]

My cousin's watching Wales, but i told him forget what you read or hear, Foden was England's best player tonight & ran the show 2nd half!

If Foden played for anyone else he'd be lauded as one of the worlds best players. As it is he's called very good and then they praise other players.

 

[Blue and true]

Rodri can actually be pretty arrogant, himself. It’s generally required to get anywhere near the top level. You have to have supreme confidence in yourself to the point of coming off as overestimating your own abilities just to make it through the gauntlet.

He is just also very intelligent and selfless, so it normally comes of as assertiveness and leadership. His arrogance is channeled for comprehensively positive impact.

The issue with Bellingham is that he is not only arrogant, he is selfish and self-important. He’s starting to internalise the reverence coming from every direction, which is changing not only how he plays but how he sees his place relative to everyone else.

Someone prominent that has been there themselves needs to have a word with him about it. I think Zidane would actually be a decent candidate.

Otherwise he is going down a self-destructive path.

"Going down a self-destructive path".

Jesus fucking Christ. Got anything to substantiate that? You're saying a young lad who has walked into the biggest team in the world, into a veritable pressure cooker, and has taken the team and the league by storm is on a self-destructive path? What are you going on about?

 

[MMA]

Rodri can actually be pretty arrogant, himself. It’s generally required to get anywhere near the top level. You have to have supreme confidence in yourself to the point of coming off as overestimating your own abilities just to make it through the gauntlet.

He is just also very intelligent and selfless, so it normally comes of as assertiveness and leadership. His arrogance is channeled for comprehensively positive impact.

The issue with Bellingham is that he is not only arrogant, he is selfish and self-important. He’s starting to internalise the reverence coming from every direction, which is changing not only how he plays but how he sees his place relative to everyone else.

Someone prominent that has been there themselves needs to have a word with him about it. I think Zidane would actually be a decent candidate.

Otherwise he is going down a self-destructive path.

Rodri is not arrogant.
He gets cropped all the time and gets rightly pissed off.
Gets targeted.
Fire in his belly might get him into trouble now and again but arrogant he certainly is not.

 

[hilts]

You can't admit to never watching Madrid play and then say you've never seen him have an incredible game. Not really a fair assessment, is it? It'd be like a Madrid fan saying they don't think Foden is an incredible player but never watching City.

I don't think he was brilliant tonight, but then none of the England players were. An easier way of ending the debate, name five midfielders in the world who are currently better than him?

I have seen him play for different teams against city and for England If he only has incredible games for Madrid that would be very very odd. I'm starting to think you're related or running his fan club.

 

[SebastianBlue]

"Going down a self-destructive path".

Jesus fucking Christ. Got anything to substantiate that? You're saying a young lad who has walked into the biggest team in the world, into a veritable pressure cooker, and has taken the team and the league by storm is on a self-destructive path? What are you going on about?

None of that has anything to did with the self-destructive path that is going down if he continues to internal the reverence coming from every direction and becomes more selfish and more self-important as he does.

There have been some absolutely amazing footballers that I have done similarly to him at fire, who have then crashed and burned when they followed a similar path.

Any student of football would be aware of that and be able to recognise the signs on the pitch and off it.

They are all there with Bellingham at present.

 

[Blue and true]

I have seen him play for different teams against city and for England If he only has incredible games for Madrid that would be very very odd. I'm starting to think you're related or running his fan club.

Nope, I'm just not in denial. He's an incredible player by every conceivable metric. By other teams, do you mean Dortmund?