England v Belgium | Friendly | Match Thread

[hilts]

Can I like this twice yet?

Now that is an incredible footballer and the best in the world at what he does.

 

[Ashton Moss Messi]

How many vouchers do I need from The Sun to claim my St George's flag plastic bowler hat?

 

[MMA]

I don’t necessarily disagree with you but you look at Cristiano Ronaldo as an example. We all hated him for his arrogance but it served him well in the big moments especially in the Champions League for Madrid as he was always there stepping up to score. Not saying Bellinghams close to him in ability but he’s a good example of how that arrogance/belief can drag a team through.

Ronaldo and messi are unique.
Bellingham has a touch of the jealousy about him.
More of a Ibrahimovich about him.

 

[Blue and true]

No he didn't. He said, "He's a selfish, self serving ****".

Reread his first post. That's exactly what was hinted.

 

[hilts]

How many vouchers do I need from The Sun to claim my St George's flag plastic bowler hat?

You need to send in a picture of yourself growling like a lion

 

[remember arthur mann]

2 shocking goals to give away, Southgate’s got away with one. Let’s have it right, this is a poor, poor Belgium side.

Still a shit manager.

But good enough for the rags.

 

[MMA]

You need to send in a picture of yourself growling like a lion

Whilst wearing a purple st Georges flag.

 

[Blue and true]

Phil is a better footballer, his actual talent exceeds Bellingham. Bellingham is a very good footballer. I don't watch Madrid so only see him for England or against city. I have yet to see him have an incredible game.

Smoke gets blown up young players arses to much and too soon. I don't see him do anything that very good midfielders haven't been doing for many many teams over the years.

You can't admit to never watching Madrid play and then say you've never seen him have an incredible game. Not really a fair assessment, is it? It'd be like a Madrid fan saying they don't think Foden is an incredible player but never watching City.

I don't think he was brilliant tonight, but then none of the England players were. An easier way of ending the debate, name five midfielders in the world who are currently better than him?

 

[TinFoilHat]

I never said it wasn't. But the poster intimated Bellingham isn't a special player, which is fully cooked denial. He's comfortably in the top five players in the world this season.

He isn't a special player.

He'll have his arse handed to him by us in the CL despite all the hype from BT about him pre game.

He could become one of the greatest but he shitted out of being that by joing Real Madrid where he can be mollycoddled into believing he's better than he is. Rather than have a coach that would have made him work his bollocks off to be the best and not to act the **** with it.

He's an arrogant cock.

 

[MMA]

He isn't a special player.

He'll have his arse handed to him by us in the CL despite all the hype from BT about him pre game.

He could become one of the greatest but he shitted out of being that by joing Real Madrid where he can be mollycoddled into believing he's better than he is. Rather than have a coach that would have made him work his bollocks off to be the best and not to act the **** with it.

He's an arrogant cock.

In a piss easy league.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Rodri can actually be pretty arrogant, himself. It’s generally required to get anywhere near the top level. You have to have supreme confidence in yourself to the point of coming off as overestimating your own abilities just to make it through the gauntlet.

He is just also very intelligent and selfless, so it normally comes of as assertiveness and leadership. His arrogance is channeled for comprehensively positive impact.

The issue with Bellingham is that he is not only the run-of-the-mill arrogant, he is selfish and actually self-important. He’s starting to internalise the reverence coming from every direction, which is changing not only how he plays but how he sees his place relative to everyone else.

Someone prominent that has been there themselves needs to have a word with him about it. I think Zidane would actually be a decent candidate.

Otherwise he is going down a self-destructive path.

 

[i kne albert davy]

He isn't a special player.

He'll have his arse handed to him by us in the CL despite all the hype from BT about him pre game.

He could become one of the greatest but he shitted out of being that by joing Real Madrid where he can be mollycoddled into believing he's better than he is. Rather than have a coach that would have made him work his bollocks off to be the best and not to act the **** with it.

He's an arrogant cock.

Not overly impressed then.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Southgate has some nerve celebrating like that.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Not overly impressed then.

I'm sitting on the fence with him if I'm being honest.

 

[argyle]

My cousin's watching Wales, but i told him forget what you read or hear, Foden was England's best player tonight & ran the show 2nd half!

If Foden played for anyone else he'd be lauded as one of the worlds best players. As it is he's called very good and then they praise other players.

 

[Blue and true]

Rodri can actually be pretty arrogant, himself. It’s generally required to get anywhere near the top level. You have to have supreme confidence in yourself to the point of coming off as overestimating your own abilities just to make it through the gauntlet.

He is just also very intelligent and selfless, so it normally comes of as assertiveness and leadership. His arrogance is channeled for comprehensively positive impact.

The issue with Bellingham is that he is not only arrogant, he is selfish and self-important. He’s starting to internalise the reverence coming from every direction, which is changing not only how he plays but how he sees his place relative to everyone else.

Someone prominent that has been there themselves needs to have a word with him about it. I think Zidane would actually be a decent candidate.

Otherwise he is going down a self-destructive path.

"Going down a self-destructive path".

Jesus fucking Christ. Got anything to substantiate that? You're saying a young lad who has walked into the biggest team in the world, into a veritable pressure cooker, and has taken the team and the league by storm is on a self-destructive path? What are you going on about?

 

[MMA]

Rodri can actually be pretty arrogant, himself. It’s generally required to get anywhere near the top level. You have to have supreme confidence in yourself to the point of coming off as overestimating your own abilities just to make it through the gauntlet.

He is just also very intelligent and selfless, so it normally comes of as assertiveness and leadership. His arrogance is channeled for comprehensively positive impact.

The issue with Bellingham is that he is not only arrogant, he is selfish and self-important. He’s starting to internalise the reverence coming from every direction, which is changing not only how he plays but how he sees his place relative to everyone else.

Someone prominent that has been there themselves needs to have a word with him about it. I think Zidane would actually be a decent candidate.

Otherwise he is going down a self-destructive path.

Rodri is not arrogant.
He gets cropped all the time and gets rightly pissed off.
Gets targeted.
Fire in his belly might get him into trouble now and again but arrogant he certainly is not.

 

[hilts]

You can't admit to never watching Madrid play and then say you've never seen him have an incredible game. Not really a fair assessment, is it? It'd be like a Madrid fan saying they don't think Foden is an incredible player but never watching City.

I don't think he was brilliant tonight, but then none of the England players were. An easier way of ending the debate, name five midfielders in the world who are currently better than him?

I have seen him play for different teams against city and for England If he only has incredible games for Madrid that would be very very odd. I'm starting to think you're related or running his fan club.

 

[SebastianBlue]

"Going down a self-destructive path".

Jesus fucking Christ. Got anything to substantiate that? You're saying a young lad who has walked into the biggest team in the world, into a veritable pressure cooker, and has taken the team and the league by storm is on a self-destructive path? What are you going on about?

None of that has anything to did with the self-destructive path that is going down if he continues to internal the reverence coming from every direction and becomes more selfish and more self-important as he does.

There have been some absolutely amazing footballers that I have done similarly to him at fire, who have then crashed and burned when they followed a similar path.

Any student of football would be aware of that and be able to recognise the signs on the pitch and off it.

They are all there with Bellingham at present.

 

[Blue and true]

I have seen him play for different teams against city and for England If he only has incredible games for Madrid that would be very very odd. I'm starting to think you're related or running his fan club.

Nope, I'm just not in denial. He's an incredible player by every conceivable metric. By other teams, do you mean Dortmund?