England v Denmark | Euro 2020 Semi Final

[marco]

View attachment 20864Pretty simple really. He missed the penalty and scored the rebound.

he missed the pen versus the keeper saved the pen which prevented him from scoring the pen,,,have you any stats on how long a piece of string is

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

lol, have a look at the replay, nothing to do with colliding it was knee to knee contact

I gave my interpretation of the penalty pages back.
Pretty much agreeing with you actually.
First defender brushed contact down leg (from the knee you say)

Puts Raheem off balance as the second defender collides, putting him down.

Neither contact on its own maybe would warrant him hitting the ground but the two together floored him.

In essence, I don’t think he dived and have seen them given all season.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Not yet, did it come home in 1996?

Yep started here played here,move on to 2021, In the final now score first we win this tournament in my hope and opinion of course.

 

[andyhinch]

I gave my interpretation of the penalty pages back.
Pretty much agreeing with you actually.
First defender brushed contact down leg (from the knee you say)

Puts Raheem off balance as the second defender collides, putting him down.

Neither contact on its own maybe would warrant him hitting the ground but the two together floored him.

In essence, I don’t think he dived and have seen them given all season.

Fair assessment

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

he missed the pen versus the keeper saved the pen which prevented him from scoring the pen,,,have you any stats on how long a piece of string is

No, but he still missed his penalty. All record books will state that. It’s just you and preston who have decided to define missing a penalty as not hitting the target.

 

[The1nvisibleMan]

The 1996 Euro's were in England and I doubt any England fan thought football had "come home" having failed to win it. Coming home is s homage and hopeful mantra that England could win a major tournament as in 1966.

I mean, there was a whole song about it

 

[hammocity]

I've just looked again, maybe I wasn't clear. Firstly, I said I don't think it was enough for a pen but he didn't dive.

Secondly, there was contact from two players to my eyes.

There is contact with the hip from the second player and this is when Sterling is already on the way down.

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Before that though, Sterling shifted his weight onto his left and then onto his right, to weave his way through. As he knocked the ball on and shifted his momentum onto his right watch number 5 for Denmark, notice the moment he puts his leg out and look where the ball is.
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Above you can see, Sterling has knocked the ball on, he is not off balance/on the way down, the ball is passed the defenders foot and his leg is outstretched in front of Sterling.

Is that an attempt to play the ball or is it an attempt to stop Sterling who is rapid from attempting to run onto his knock on? You said it was non recoverable but if he wasn't knocked off balance I wouldn't bet against Sterling getting onto that even if it was a heavy touch and maybe the defender thought the same.

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A couple of fames on and Sterling is still not on his way down, but he's got nowhere to go, being sandwiched from both sides neither defender playing for the ball. He's going to have to either run into the defenders outstretched leg or try and avoid it, which he does try to do IMO.

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He's tried to avoid the contact and but it's still been made which is what puts him off balance and then the other defender makes contact with the hip but he was already on the way down. That's what I thought people were referring to(as already on the way down) because it's the only one that makes sense.

It is a soft one because there wasn't much contact but it wasn't a dive, to me Sterling could have took more advantage of the outstretched leg if he wanted to but he tried to get past it.

He took advantage and got away with it, I'm not comfortable with any players doing this, just because there's contact it doesn't mean a foul and/or a penalty, I like Raz but I don't like the "simulation" aspect of his game.

 

[marco]

I gave my interpretation of the penalty pages back.
Pretty much agreeing with you actually.
First defender brushed contact down leg (from the knee you say)

Puts Raheem off balance as the second defender collides, putting him down.

Neither contact on its own maybe would warrant him hitting the ground but the two together floored him.

In essence, I don’t think he dived and have seen them given all season.

fair take,,,i think he went down when his right foot trailed the top of the defenders boot,as i said previous 'looking for the pen' then the knee to knee but prior as you say the defender collides,there should be clear explanation which would put all this to bed

 

[hammocity]

I mean, there was a whole song about it

Yeah, but it fell flat when the team got knocked out, it wasn't about the tournament being in England, it was about England winning a major trophy, the song was rereleased about 4 times after that for every tournament not being played in England.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

No, but he still missed his penalty. All record books will state that. It’s just you and preston who have decided to define missing a penalty as not hitting the target.

So he missed a penalty but made up for it a second later by scoring the winner.

Christ there’s people on here criticising the opinions of foreign supporters but you do more nonsensical bickering amongst yourselves.
Honestly don’t get it. If Ireland ever got near a final I’d be over the moon and wouldn’t care how we scored.

You won. You’re through to the final and nobody can say you didn’t deserve it. Even yourselves.
Just enjoy.