I agree. It feels like the England manager job is impossible at times. I know we were poor and we lost, but as I said it’s one game - a glorified friendly. We shouldn’t judge him on that. It was only a few weeks ago when lots of people were saying he was a bright young manager and now he’s not good enough.I agree and I actually want Carsley to succeed, just nice for England to lose a match and not be tagged in by loads of posters telling me it’s all Southgate’s fault. Reality is England are very good side, with real quality youngsters, we’ll win vast majority of games and slip up sometimes, most games will be turgid, sometimes we'll play amazing - that’s the nature of football and especially international football, i've never known anything different.
Does such a manager exist who also has the squeaky-clean image the FA are looking for, and would they be willing to do the job.
We should have kept Fat Sam irrespective of what the gutter press said. He may be a dinosaur in many ways but he showed he could play decent football while at Bolton.
What amazes me about international football is that there are 80,000 people willing to buy tickets for what is essentially a fake event.The England players looked totally burned out last night. It was a friendly match. The second division of the so-called Nations League. The broadcasters talk it up because there is money in it for them. These games are absurd and meaningless. There will be another absurd international break in November. Is that the fourth one? As long as there are gullible fans happy to turn out at Wembley this farce will continue. International football has been totally devalued.
With the England manager, you can’t do right for doing wrong. With Southgate, it was boredom in many people’s eyes, Carsley has now tried to be attacking and that hasn’t worked, not his fault that Alexander Arnold and Saka don’t want to do their defensive duties during the game but no, the media won’t highlight that. So, before the Carsley pile on, let’s give him a bit of a chance, he’ll try things out, he talked about courage, let’s hope he has the courage to not name two or three of the bigger ego players, the next match.'We tried something different'
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FT: England 1-2 Greece
England boss Lee Carsley on ITV: "We were second best for a lot of tonight, it is disappointing. You are going to get set backs and it's important we respond.
"We tried something different and tried to overload the midfield. We tried it for 20 minutes yesterday, we experimented, and disappointed it didn't come off. It's unrealistic to expect too much and we will have to try again. All the goals were from mistakes, which is disappointing.
"It is definitely an option going forward. When you have someone of Kane's quality though it rules it out when he is available. But in the future you have to have the courage and ability to try things.
"We tried something different. It doesn't change anything. My remit is to do the three camps."
Internationals were great in the 60s and 70s even though England were shit from 74 onwards. They were big events watched by huge TV audiences. Now most of the matches are ridiculous but no one in the media calls it out because they have commercial relationships with the football authorities. I predict that the best players will drop out of England games more and more. There are too many games against pub teams (not Greece who I thought played well).I agree completely (barely take an interest in the Nations League, whatever division is in action), but you know, the Home Internationals were like that years ago. And people still flocked to them (especially the Scots, for whom it was a Big Deal if they were meeting England).
My Dad did in the 60’s/70’s. He used to go to watch an odd England match whenever he was in London seeing his brother. He enjoyed watching football.I agree completely (barely take an interest in the Nations League, whatever division is in action), but you know, the Home Internationals were like that years ago. And people still flocked to them (especially the Scots, for whom it was a Big Deal if they were meeting England).
My Dad did in the 60’s/70’s. He used to go to watch an odd England match whenever he was in London seeing his brother. He enjoyed watching football.
I doubt the quality was always good. Not every match is. It isn’t of today’s football either. However, you could always say the England v Scotland matches were always, shall we say, spicy? ;)Oh I did, too. As a matter of fact, the first match of any kind that I saw was England against Scotland in 1967. And that was great (especially for the Scots). But it just isn't true, I'm afraid, that the quality of the internationals was always good. Especially in the Home International tournament.