England v Uruguay

Look ok against italy with sterling in the hole so we chance it to accommodate the shite pele
 
We're completely shite.

It starts with picking names instead of players and form.
It then goes to players selected by their club.
It continues through the god awful passing ability.
And finishes with a shite manager.
 
adrianr said:
SebastianBlue said:
Phil Meup said:
... because of a shit training system from kids football upwards.
Not emphasis on skill, way too obsessed with results.

I agree.

But I think it is actually too much a focus on athleticism. Only the English focus so much on just that characteristic.

It generally produces extremely fit, incredibly hardworking morons.

Ok, maybe I am being a bit harsh, but you get my point.

Well we're not even fitter or harder working than plenty of international teams we come up against, so we're really fucking up somewhere.

That does seem to be the case as of late (though, not necessarily just a decade ago).

But the Germans, Dutch, and Spanish spend quite a lot of time developing specific traits in specific positions, not just an overall assessment as if the player will play every outfield position. And they also generally train the same system all the way up the age groups. The English system is disjointed and adversarial.
 
Rooney plays badly out wide and the pundits say he should play centrally. Rooney plays badly centrally and the pundits say he is too central. Has it ever crossed their minds that he just isn't very good?
 
Welbeck = A shite Heskey
If Milner had missed that header from a foot out there would be lynch mob out, but Rooney was courageous to even go for the ball.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Phil Meup said:
SebastianBlue said:
Probably true, even though the real issue is a dearth of English talent.
... because of a shit training system from kids football upwards.
Not emphasis on skill, way too obsessed with results.

I agree.

But I think it is actually too much a focus on athleticism. Only the English focus so much on just that characteristic.

It generally produces extremely fit, incredibly hardworking morons.

Ok, maybe I am being a bit harsh, but you get my point.

I know what you are saying but we are not even demonstrating that. Italy were fitter and stronger whilst we were dropping like flies, with cramp. Uruguay look stronger and fitter too.
 
SebastianBlue said:
adrianr said:
SebastianBlue said:
I agree.

But I think it is actually too much a focus on athleticism. Only the English focus so much on just that characteristic.

It generally produces extremely fit, incredibly hardworking morons.

Ok, maybe I am being a bit harsh, but you get my point.

Well we're not even fitter or harder working than plenty of international teams we come up against, so we're really fucking up somewhere.

That does seem to be the case as of late (though, not necessarily just a decade ago).

But the Germans, Dutch, and Spanish spend quite a lot of time developing specific traits in specific positions, not just an overall assessment as if the player will play every outfield position. And they also generally train the same system all the way up the age groups. The English system is disjointed and adversarial.

Agreed especially the last sentence..
 
Plays By Sense Of Smell said:
Plays By Sense Of Smell said:
Same as balo goal - ball played across and over last CB's head, nan pulls away at the back
In fact reminds me of quarterbacks who loft the timed ball over the heads of inexperienced cornerbacks who bite, try to jump for it and miss, and are the left for dead. If honey get good enough at judging it, they learn to play the man unless they are 100% sure they can reach it. At least then you get a lot fewer breakaway scores.
What language you speak please?
 

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