Originals said:I've always think Englands problem is the players never play aboard. Why is this? We have these so called "world class" players yet none of them have gone aboard and played and succeeded.
I've never really seen any of the top european teams actually express an interest in 1 of our England players
There were no players from that U21 team on the field but Jimmy Milner did play in that final and was obviously on the bench last night. Agbonlahor and Frazier Campbell were regulars at that time but missing through injury. Walcott was in the team and would have been there last night but for his injury.woolleyback blue said:I don't listen to Talk Sh1 but her ladship does. She said Stuart Pearce was on this morning. He mentioned when he was U21 manager and they reached the finals of the Euro u21's and played Germany.
He said 6 of the U21 German team are now playing for the full team. Anyone care to guess how many of the England u21 team were on the pitch against Uruguay and for a bonus point how many in squad?
Clue it is't nil.
Prestwich_Blue said:There were no players from that U21 team on the field but Jimmy Milner did play in that final and was obviously on the bench last night. Agbonlahor and Frazier Campbell were regulars at that time but missing through injury. Walcott was in the team and would have been there last night but for his injury.woolleyback blue said:I don't listen to Talk Sh1 but her ladship does. She said Stuart Pearce was on this morning. He mentioned when he was U21 manager and they reached the finals of the Euro u21's and played Germany.
He said 6 of the U21 German team are now playing for the full team. Anyone care to guess how many of the England u21 team were on the pitch against Uruguay and for a bonus point how many in squad?
Clue it is't nil.
Richards & Onuoha played in that game as the centre-back pairing and Rodwell & Adam Johnson also played. So is it that these players aren't good enough or that our club coaching doesn't help them to make that final step?
citykev28 said:supercrystal7 said:Very disappointing. Was too angry to comment yesterday, but we have so many problems, but the biggest one is that we don't play football like England. We need to stop copying other countries, ignore what they do and play football the English way.
I have seen post moaning about the facilities in this country, because kids have to get changed in a car par. Who cares? Do you think Brazil have won 5 world cups, because they have a changing room? We have better facilities than every other country in the world. We cannot go 2 miles, without finding good green pitches. We have perfect weather to play football all year around and here.
We have big problems with our coaching. Most youngsters are coached poorly and the scouting system is not particularly good either. Too many talented players slip through without ever being seen. Other problems include the drink culture that we have. Most talented players turn to drink around 15/16 and are more focused on going out on the Friday night rather than training.
This England's team just lacked ability. We are just going through a poor generation. We have been spoiled by the golden generation and this team just does not compare. The defence is a shadow of what it was before.
Great we can pass the ball, but that's worthless without anything. Stop using Spain as an example of physically limited players winning things. For some reason Spain had the fittest team in the world. Physical abilities are important as well as technique. We need to merge both.
Hopefully the next Euros will be better, but with our defence we probably won't be a threat to win it.
I'm not having a pop, just curious as to which players you considered a part of this golden generation? Which period of time are you referring to?
lancs blue said:Prestwich_Blue said:There were no players from that U21 team on the field but Jimmy Milner did play in that final and was obviously on the bench last night. Agbonlahor and Frazier Campbell were regulars at that time but missing through injury. Walcott was in the team and would have been there last night but for his injury.woolleyback blue said:I don't listen to Talk Sh1 but her ladship does. She said Stuart Pearce was on this morning. He mentioned when he was U21 manager and they reached the finals of the Euro u21's and played Germany.
He said 6 of the U21 German team are now playing for the full team. Anyone care to guess how many of the England u21 team were on the pitch against Uruguay and for a bonus point how many in squad?
Clue it is't nil.
Richards & Onuoha played in that game as the centre-back pairing and Rodwell & Adam Johnson also played. So is it that these players aren't good enough or that our club coaching doesn't help them to make that final step?
Hart was in the squad for that U-21 tournament and played in the semi final against the Germans, can't recall why he didn't play in the Final, was it injury?
Originals said:I've always think Englands problem is the players never play aboard. Why is this? We have these so called "world class" players yet none of them have gone aboard and played and succeeded.
I've never really seen any of the top european teams actually express an interest in 1 of our England players