England's problem

[Schalker]

were shit and we know we are.

..but standing loyal to the team I hope
There is still a chance I bet on it.

 

[G-Star Medium Rare]

Not that fussed tbh. My team has some of the best players in world football and has won the Prem in two out of the last three seasons.

 

[IH8MUFC]

This 2 year topic comes around every time England go out of a tournament.

Lets face it fans are just as much to blame as anybody. We don't want to give youth players a chance we all want the finished article.

Same with managers, English managers don't get a chance anymore. If they do a good job and get promoted to the prem then there not "premiership managers" case in point Adkins at Southampton.

 

[IH8MUFC]

Well another thing is for all the were shit talk, Uruguay were lucky to have 10 men after Godins cynical foul on Sturridge. Sometimes it is as basic as that. We see time and time again games are decided by the refs as much as anything.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Wrong squad selection, simple as that. Too many players past it/never had it.

Johnson
Rooney
Gerrard
Jagelka
Henderson

And most of all fucking hodgson.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In Belgium (apparantly) they get all the school kids playing football from an early age and they all play in the same formation as the national team........

what do we do.............sell off the school playing fields to housing builders

 

[VOOMER]

Attitude is England's problem. It always has been.

You can blame Roy Hodgson, you can blame Gerrard, Rooney, tactics, poor quality players, but at the end of the day, the problem is the perception of the team.

England have the hype of a top nation, while, realistically, they're an average one.
England's football is dominated by foreign players, and that's something we've all known for a very long time and we accept that.
We've sacrificed developing English players for bringing in top foreign players.
But the likes of Germany have most of their players playing in Germany.


The average teams, will play well above their weight, will work hard, play as a unit and run top teams close and have a right go. They've no pressure, nothing to lose. Their spirit and attitude of never giving up, along with everyone getting behind them pushes them on. The team will work for each other and have the support of the media, people etc. and they benefit from that. As the Irish put it, they give a lash, and see what happens.

England are one of these teams, they're not a top quality team. They've one or two top quality players, among a lot of journeymen and average joes.
However the carry the attitude and expectation of a top ranked team, like Spain, Germany etc.

England have always relied heavily on one or two top players, be it Beckham, Rooney etc. put incredible amount of pressure on their shoulders and when they don't produce to the expected level, it's a full blown man hunt, instead of backing them, and supporting them, it's followed by an unfair amount of criticism, after the pressure is too much to bare.
You can't label them as a failure one minute and rip down their performance and criticise them to no end and then expect them to deliver, they're human, they carry that, they feel that pressure.

• These English players do not enjoy wearing that jersey, it has a negative impact on them. The pressure is unbearable.
  England needed a clear game plan. They didn't have one. Players looked unsure of their job. You can't go out and just wing it.
  They needed some gile and bite in the middle of the pitch, they didn't have it. Both the players sat too deep. Gerrard is past it but was not dropped, that was a mistake and ultimately I think the downfall of England.
  Rooney was man marked and was the only English player to be man marked. He had a shadow for the entire game, he was surrounded and isolated and cut off, and there was little other options. He was England's only source of creativity and with him taken out of the game at times, there was little anyone else could offer.
  They needed to be hungrier and work harder then their opposition, they didn't.

As many teams without top players do, when they play together, they play greater than the sum of their parts. Yet when England play, as soon as they put on the jersey it has a negative impact on them, all because the pressure is just so unmanageable.

England need to wake up, they need to accept the fact that they're not a top team, the sooner they do this, the sooner they lower their expectations, is when they will push on and do better.
England have a massive pool of players, and obviously some work needs to be done about how players are developed, but they either need to accept the fact that English players will never prosper in England while so many of the teams are dominated by foreign players, not just the top teams, but mid table teams.
Or do something about it.

But the attitude surrounding this English team will always be their downfall.

Ahhh, the joy of copy and paste.

 

[dadnlad]

Wrong squad selection, simple as that. Too many players past it/never had it.

Johnson
Rooney
Gerrard
Jagelka
Henderson

And most of all fucking hodgson.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In Belgium (apparantly) they get all the school kids playing football from an early age and they all play in the same formation as the national team........

what do we do.............sell off the school playing fields to housing builders

poor little love might get hurt playing with a ball in play ground
or is it the sue culture of parents that's stopped kids kicking a ball about

 

[Plaything of the gods]

From February 2011...

After Steve McClaren, Barwick insisted there would be a root-and-branch review of the ailing English game. Just a few hasty weeks later, wanting a trophy name and bowing to impatience, he produced Capello. “A winner with a capital W,” said Barwick.

As some of us warned, Capello may have been a fine club manager with Milan and Real Madrid but he was untried at international level and unable to communicate adequately (and still is). The main beneficiary has been his pension fund.

At a ridiculous £6million a year, he was certainly a costly pair of pruning shears to sort out the roots and branches when a chainsaw for tree surgery was required.

Capello remains after last summer’s World Cup flop, we are led to believe, because he is too expensive to pay off. It is the FA’s lame excuse for failing to act. A deal could surely have been done and a new man recruited for less than the £12m nominally left on a contract hastily and naively extended before South Africa.

Last time, Barwick and Co overlooked the real requirement and in doing so undermined a lot of good work that the FA do. The need was for a man who would also oversee the development of young players and a new generation of coaches by ensuring the National Football Centre at Burton would be built.

Capello has taken little interest in any of that. He was, he may say, charged with bringing the best out of a so-called golden generation of elite players. Well, we have seen the results of concentrating on that. The FA say they want a Briton as a successor. In truth, nationality does not matter anywhere near as much as any new man’s adaptability to a well-conceived system.

The appointment of Gareth Southgate to work with Sir Trevor Brooking in developing young talent is a good start – and an admission by the FA that Capello’s regime has failed in that department. With Stuart Pearce also in situ, it thus needs a senior figure to oversee both Burton and the national team.

Sadly his stock has fallen after his Liverpool experiences, but Roy Hodgson remains the sound choice, even if Harry Redknapp’s charisma is superficially attractive.

Hodgson was simply the wrong man at the wrong time at Anfield but retains the necessary gravitas and experience of both club and international football to handle a role that should these days be a cross between technical director and national head coach.

The FA is the problem. The buck stops at the top.

 

[VOOMER]

Not that fussed tbh. My team has some of the best players in world football and has won the Prem in two out of the last three seasons.

100% on.

 

[bluemoon27]

The problem is we as a nation think we are better than what we really are,in what is known as England best team (1966) we did not even qualify for a world cup by ways of winning games between 1958 and 1982.The way the world rankings are worked out also makes us look better than what we really are