English are 'anti-semitic'

BoyBlue_1985 said:
BimboBob said:
Because of Americas love for Israel and the fact that we blindly follow them in most international policies i am not really suprised that we are being touted as Jew haters. Don't forget we also hate the Arabs. Oh...and all Muslims.

How could we be called Jew haters if we blindly follow America who has its fair share of jews and support Israel which is now the Jewish homeland.

Im confused now

That was my point. Sorry to confuse you.
 
TheLegendOfBerti said:
imo Israel shouldn't exist so from my perspective the arabs have every right to do what they want to it.

If you are referring to the fact that it was created through terrorism on the Palestinians and us (King David hotel, stern gang etc) and that terrorism should never be rewarded then I understand your moral stance.

In fairness we should have given them a chunk of Germany after the war rather than making another people pay for our guilt.
 
TheLegendOfBerti said:
imo Israel shouldn't exist so from my perspective the arabs have every right to do what they want to it.
The Arabs had no more claim to Palestine than the Jews did. Both lived there after the Roman occupation of the existing Jewish state in 79AD and it was never anything other than a part of someone else's empire after that up until the UN democratically decided it should be partitioned in the absence of any other solution. A decision that wasn't accepted by the Arabs who then went to war and lost most of what they had.

Pakistan is therefore, by your logic, another illegitimate country having been carved out of India. The UAE was a collection of warring tribal states up to the 1970's. Also Saudi Arabia was the result of Ibn Saud and his clan fighting against and defeating the Al Rashid family and other tribes in the area as recently as 1902. So by your logic the Al Rashid clan would have every right to resort to terror tactics to regain their land.

I've never noticed you getting on your high horse about the Turkish treatment of the Kurds or their illegal occupation of Cyprus.

-- Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:57 pm --

eagle said:
If you are referring to the fact that it was created through terrorism on the Palestinians and us (King David hotel, stern gang etc) and that terrorism should never be rewarded then I understand your moral stance.

In fairness we should have given them a chunk of Germany after the war rather than making another people pay for our guilt.
So that makes the Republic of Ireland illegitimate in your eyes. And there were always Jews living in Palestine and there were quite a lot of them before the war. So your argument is ridiculous.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
TheLegendOfBerti said:
imo Israel shouldn't exist so from my perspective the arabs have every right to do what they want to it.
The Arabs had no more claim to Palestine than the Jews did. Both lived there after the Roman occupation of the exisitng Jewish state in 79AD and it was never anything other than a part of someone else's empire after that up until thr UN democratically decided it should be partitioned in the absence of any other solution.

Pakistan is therefore, by your logic, another illegitimate country having been carved out of India. The UAE was a collection of warring tribal states up to the 1970's. Also Saudi Arabia was the result of Ibn Saud and his clan fighting against and defeating the Al Rashid family and other tribes in the area as recently as 1902.

How far back do you go to acknowledge ownership rights? A gap of 2000 years and a tenuous link based on a religious text is to tenuous too constitute rights of ownership.

Any dishonest appropriation always requires subterfuge hence the myths over rights of ownership. Also many of the immigrants have been described as Khazars, that is converts to the religion whose ancestors could never have come form that location.

One solution and the only fair one would be a one state solution. I don't think the hosts can be more hospitable than that. After what Germany did to the Jews we can only thank the Palestinians for making these sacrifices on our behalf.
 
eagle said:
How far back do you go to acknowledge ownership rights? A gap of 2000 years and a tenuous link based on a religious text is to tenuous too constitute rights of ownership.

Any dishonest appropriation always requires subterfuge hence the myths over rights of ownership. Also many of the immigrants have been described as Khazars, that is converts to the religion whose ancestors could never have come form that location.

One solution and a far solution would be a one state solution. I don't think the hosts can be more hospitable than that.
I don't disagree with your last remark but the rest of that post is utter & complete tripe. I can't even be bothered arguing with such one-eyed, ill-informed stupidity. You sound like you've been on those right wing revisionist websites that claim that Rupert Murdoch is Jewish.
 
Another one mixing up 'anti-Zionism' with 'anti-Semitism' it would appear. You'd hope the president of Israel would have got to grips with that one. Oh, hang on, no you wouldn't.
 

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