Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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So the Americans have Ghislaine banged up inside until next summer, that's a one year sentence and yet she's supposedly innocent until proven guilty? Now, honestly, I have no time for the woman; if she's done half the things I've heard and read, then she is a disgusting specimen (not too shabby, though?). Also, I understand the flight risk argument; but a year's sentence when you are still'innocent'? Maybe in Russia or China; but in a Western democracy there are alternatives...house arrest, confiscate passport, report to the cops every day, wear one of those ankle tags? Just my thoughts, but what the hell do I know?
 
The Earl of Abington said:
So the Americans have Ghislaine banged up inside until next summer, that's a one year sentence and yet she's supposedly innocent until proven guilty? Now, honestly, I have no time for the woman; if she's done half the things I've heard and read, then she is a disgusting specimen (not too shabby, though?). Also, I understand the flight risk argument; but a year's sentence when you are still'innocent'? Maybe in Russia or China; but in a Western democracy there are alternatives...house arrest, confiscate passport, report to the cops every day, wear one of those ankle tags? Just my thoughts, but what the hell do I know?
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Not much, it seems. Large criminal cases, such as this one, can take time to go to trial. It is not just the prosecution taking the many weeks or months to prepare but also, and especially, the defence. Her attorneys will (should) be painstakingly going through the discovery process and analyzing every bit of evidence the state has against her.

Should, for some reason, her counsel be concerned she is jailed unnecessarily, and without due process, they may file a writ of habeas corpus. A habeas corpus writ requires, essentially, ones jailers to bring them to court for a hearing as to whether their detention is lawful.

Under the Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, defendants are guaranteed the right to a speedy trial. Pretty much every state has a statute stating when a trial should begin, usually between 60 and 90 days. Many, if not most, denfence attorneys will waive this right in an effort to give them time to mount a better defence.

And finally, if she should be found guilty and sentenced to thirty years, for example, the judge will likely say her time incarcerated prior to trial will count towards her sentence.
 
Bang her up on remand for a year. Hope Trump loses and they can add it to the biggest charge sheet ever he can brag about.
 
better dead than red said:
Not much, it seems. Large criminal cases, such as this one, can take time to go to trial. It is not just the prosecution taking the many weeks or months to prepare but also, and especially, the defence. Her attorneys will (should) be painstakingly going through the discovery process and analyzing every bit of evidence the state has against her.

Should, for some reason, her counsel be concerned she is jailed unnecessarily, and without due process, they may file a writ of habeas corpus. A habeas corpus writ requires, essentially, ones jailers to bring them to court for a hearing as to whether their detention is lawful.

Under the Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, defendants are guaranteed the right to a speedy trial. Pretty much every state has a statute stating when a trial should begin, usually between 60 and 90 days. Many, if not most, denfence attorneys will waive this right in an effort to give them time to mount a better defence.

And finally, if she should be found guilty and sentenced to thirty years, for example, the judge will likely say her time incarcerated prior to trial will count towards her sentence.
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Thanks BDTR, you obviously know a lot more than I do (not difficult). I am completely aware of your final point, and if she did go to trial in 60 to 90 days, then fair enough, no problem. But I've just looked at a BBC report on the case and I see her team did apply for bail...it was refused and the case is set to go to trial in July 2021. So,I still have an issue. Surely, all of the necessary pre-trial stuff that you mention can be done regardless of the defendant's location, provided they take the appropriate measures to keep her in one place? But, like I said, what the hell do I know? And that's my final answer.
 
The Earl of Abington said:
So the Americans have Ghislaine banged up inside until next summer, that's a one year sentence and yet she's supposedly innocent until proven guilty? Now, honestly, I have no time for the woman; if she's done half the things I've heard and read, then she is a disgusting specimen (not too shabby, though?). Also, I understand the flight risk argument; but a year's sentence when you are still'innocent'? Maybe in Russia or China; but in a Western democracy there are alternatives...house arrest, confiscate passport, report to the cops every day, wear one of those ankle tags? Just my thoughts, but what the hell do I know?
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She was the world's most wanted women,she is not getting away again and give her chance to cover up evidence of contact the high profile people she serviced with kids,wobble your head
 
pudge said:
There's a serial sex offender and accused rapist in the White House right now and you're on record for looking forward to laughing at others if he gets re-elected.
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Did you not read my previous quote on this page??? Or is that against the narrative you’re trying to paint??
 
kaz7 said:
I am not reading any theories,there are two sides,if there was evidence he would have been arrested,you should stop watching doco's and reading books ,they are always one sided and in some cases like michael Jackson they were cleared in court and not here to answer any new accusations
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You’ve definitely definitely never heard of the case or looked into it.

You’re actually incredibly ignorant on this, I’m sorry to say Kaz.

Please look into it.
 
Ban-jani said:
You’ve definitely definitely never heard of the case or looked into it.

You’re actually incredibly ignorant on this, I’m sorry to say Kaz.

Please look into it.
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So she supports trump who is on tape for grabbing women by the pussy and doing what he wants to them ,ardent Republican,hmmm

Since the 2016 election, Broaddrick has been increasingly politically active in support of Donald Trump, the Republican Party, and conservative groups. She had criticized Democratic politicians Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Ilhan Omar along with six Fox News journalists critical of Trump.
 
The Earl of Abington said:
So the Americans have Ghislaine banged up inside until next summer, that's a one year sentence and yet she's supposedly innocent until proven guilty? Now, honestly, I have no time for the woman; if she's done half the things I've heard and read, then she is a disgusting specimen (not too shabby, though?). Also, I understand the flight risk argument; but a year's sentence when you are still'innocent'? Maybe in Russia or China; but in a Western democracy there are alternatives...house arrest, confiscate passport, report to the cops every day, wear one of those ankle tags? Just my thoughts, but what the hell do I know?
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she’s got the money, the means and the motive to disappear forever. An ankle tag isn’t going to do much good if she takes it off and jumps on a jet to a remote country with no extradition laws.
 
Ban-jani said:
Why do you think she supported Trump?

Ask yourself that.

She was intimidated by Hillary after alleging she was raped by her husband.

She was not an ardent Republican, again, read about her and the case. She was excited to meet an up and coming Democrat in 1978, that up and coming shiny politician raped her.

The story was almost forced out of her in the 90s and she was involved in politics then.

I actually cannot believe what you’re typing in bias.

Just go and read the case and read this book -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_One_Left_to_Lie_To

Written by someone far more left wing than you, who liked Clinton’s politics.

Are we also ignoring the fact he flew on Epstein’s private jet over 25 times? A private jet where witnesses have said Epstein had sex with trafficked girls.
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You make the mistake of assuming I am some far left nutter who views everything through a political lense,I dont,this isn't about dems or repuplicans,i am not American so I don't have a dog in this fight,just an interest into what a **** trump and the republicans backing him when it came to the crunch are,u can't believe what I see every night

It makes no sense that she would support someone who has admitted to assaulting women if she had been raped,it might have happened but equally it might not,you keep calling him a rapist as if it was proved and he was convicted,he was a slimy **** but you can't be convicted of that

I am out as you want to make this political and that is not where I am coming at it from
 
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