Epstein / Prince Andrew / Maxwell

It still doesn't make someone guilty of the strongest of allegations, however.

Bill Clinton, Trump, plenty of high profile visitors.

Ah yes because those two would never be connected to anything shady?!

Andrew's problem is that he stayed friends with Epstein once the whole world knew he was a sex trafficking pimp and rapist of underage girls.

The only reason you'd do that is if you a) Don't care b) Are friends with him because of that or c) Don't have a choice because he's blackmailing you.

In all three scenarios you're a guilty of something.
 
The Met wouldn't go forward on any real investigation if the CPS tell them there is not enough to proceed?

Opening a very dangerous can of worms there if the police can basically ignore legal counsel and fast-track stuff to sate the appetite of the public.

We've seen some investigations they have carried out on people like Cliff Richard and where that has landed.
They handled the cliff investigation appalling and tbf he wasnt good friends with a sex offender , staying with him for four days after he came out of prison is surely a red flag as was his no sweating and pizza stuff and also not meeting the seventeen yr old despite there being a pic of them , gary from a council estate would have been investigated to death, andrew is not in the uk , queens son , very bad optics
 
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The Met wouldn't go forward on any real investigation if the CPS tell them there is not enough to proceed?

Isn't that backwards? The CPS decide whether to prosecute, not whether to investigate.

It's the police's job to decide if it's in the public interest, then thoroughly investigate and present everything to the CPS.
 
So you don't think his behaviour and obvious lies about what he would wear on a night out or inability to sweat are the least bit suspicious?

Dishonest behaviour that would be used against him if he ever ended up in court.

Why would you lie about something that could be easily disproven unless reacting to stress and guilt?

Even if he didn't commit any crimes himself he know more about what Epstein was up to than he let on.

He's accused of rape, that's all he is defending himself on, not what else he might know or not.

Plenty of contradictory stuff, lies/vagueness to disassociate himself from any type of culpability, whatsoever, but being an entitled, arrogant snob, isn't enough for the Police or the CPS to push for Court, certainly if they have already concluded they don't have the sufficient evidence to proceed on a rape accusation.
 
They handled the cliff investigation appalling and tbf he wasnt good friends with a sex offender , staying with him for four days after he came out of prison is surely a red flag as was his no sweating and pizza stuff and also not meeting the seventeen yr old despite there being a pic of them , gary from a council estate would have been investigated to death, andrew is not in the uk , queens son , very bad optics

He's not in the UK? I don't think that's right, Kaz, saw a picture yesterday of him driving.

He's shown plenty of poor judgment down the decades. He was known as Andy Air Miles, he dated Koo Stark, he sold his crumbling house to an arms dealer for millions more than it was worth.

His ex-missus was the same - these two are self-entitled liggers.

I don't think he is very smart and I'm not absolving him of guilt, only that he has a track record of continuing associations which evidenced his arrogance, awareness.
 
He's accused of rape, that's all he is defending himself on, not what else he might know or not.

Plenty of contradictory stuff, lies/vagueness to disassociate himself from any type of culpability, whatsoever, but being an entitled, arrogant snob, isn't enough for the Police or the CPS to push for Court, certainly if they have already concluded they don't have the sufficient evidence to proceed on a rape accusation.

Obviously dishonest public statements are relevant to his testimony in defence.

In cases of "she said-he said", a jury would be entitled to disbelieve him because of the clear evidence of lies.

As I said it is bizarre, and looked like he made the lies up on the spot.
 
The Met wouldn't go forward on any real investigation if the CPS tell them there is not enough to proceed?

Opening a very dangerous can of worms there if the police can basically ignore legal counsel and fast-track stuff to sate the appetite of the public.

We've seen some investigations they have carried out on people like Cliff Richard and where that has landed.
That is simply incorrect. The CPS do not do that, t isn't their role. They review files of evidence prepared in police investigations. They don't decide what is investigated. They review what is given to them to see if charges will be brought. Cases also have to meet an evidential test prior to and in order for them to get to the CPS.
 
Ah yes because those two would never be connected to anything shady?!

Andrew's problem is that he stayed friends with Epstein once the whole world knew he was a sex trafficking pimp and rapist of underage girls.

The only reason you'd do that is if you a) Don't care b) Are friends with him because of that or c) Don't have a choice because he's blackmailing you.

In all three scenarios you're a guilty of something.

Someone can be guilty of being an arrogant dickhead, but it's still not enough to proceed with a rape investigation if they have already established to the best of their ability that they don't enough to go with.
 
That is simply incorrect. The CPS do not do that, t isn't their role. They review files of evidence prepared in police investigations. They don't decide what is investigated. They review what is given to them to see if charges will be brought. Cases also have to meet an evidential test prior to and in order for them to get to the CPS.

Thanks.
 

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