You do make a good point. Smaller clubs have fans trust groups. It’s easy for me to say, but I do think we need somethingEven Spurs and Newcastle have a fans trust groups. Like you say it's just not our mentality. We're a fan base that doesn't take things too seriously and not as organized as some other clubs.
I agree in principle although 15 seems a bit high. But then you always get people with extenuating circumstances - what do you do with the guy who had to move away for a 6 mth work contract, the guy whose wife gets seriously ill etc etc. Once you go down this path you open a Pandora’s boxSimple, if you don't attend at least 15 PL games in a season you are added back to the waiting list for a season ticket.
The current rule is you have to attend 10 matches. If you don’t attend 10, then you have to list the difference on the seat exchange. So if you attend 6 then you need to list a minimum of 4 on the exchange. The problem is they then go on sale at full whack and most of the time single seats on sale at £50+ don’t even get a nibble, so the seats remain empty. If the match day tickets were more realistic then season ticket holders who do only attend a hand full of games would be more inclined to surrender them and buy on a match by match basis, and the people who keep their season tickets would have a better chance of selling them on the exchange if less of them were being listed at £30 rather than 100’s or even 1000’s listed at £50.I agree in principle although 15 seems a bit high. But then you always get people with extenuating circumstances - what do you do with the guy who had to move away for a 6 mth work contract, the guy whose wife gets seriously ill etc etc. Once you go down this path you open a Pandora’s box
I agree in principle although 15 seems a bit high. But then you always get people with extenuating circumstances - what do you do with the guy who had to move away for a 6 mth work contract, the guy whose wife gets seriously ill etc etc. Once you go down this path you open a Pandora’s box
Spot on, when liverpool get a good atmosphere at a euro night game which in reality only happens now & again the media are all over it, european royalty, special nights at anfield, best fans in the world etc, when city get a good atmosphere at a euro night game which also only happens now and again but probably just as much as liverpool it is completly ignored by the media who are to busy getting in little digs about ground being not quite full or people leaving early,i dont think some of the named fans trust / supporters clubs quite have the say they believe they have. I would take with a pinch of salt what a supporters club has actually done. Also if a club has special ticket prices and reductions for families, they will always say "we listen to our fans", this is good publicity. When really it was a plan going ahead anyhow.
While we hear a lot about spirit of shankly or the MUFCgroup, this is mainly down to sky or bbc or what ever media it is just talking about them to create awareness of the club and get more people signed up. Hard to explain but its a similar thing to if city win away at Bayern 3 nil in the UCL QTR final, day after sky sports headline reads " Salah is worth £200m ". They will make any excuse to talk about the other 2, even if it means chucking in fans views.
If 100 people hold a scarf up in the kop end this is because they are the best fans in the world, the tv camera is right on it. If at city a 15m gold ship is walked through 5,000 blue waved flags, they would rather have a camera showing empty seats.
Spot on, when liverpool get a good atmosphere at a euro night game which in reality only happens now & again the media are all over it, european royalty, special nights at anfield, best fans in the world etc, when city get a good atmosphere at a euro night game which also only happens now and again but probably just as much as liverpool it is completly ignored by the media who are to busy getting in little digs about ground being not quite full or people leaving early,
Rinse and repeat for year after year & all the armchair fans think citys crowds are quiet & the grounds never full & liverpools always packed out & the atmosphere is always amazing.
So many things the club can do to improve the atmosphere but I don't think they care tbh could tell that when they stuck an hospitality section bang in the middle of the south stand
Those electronic banners are dreadful. Should also consider replacing some of the old banners on Tier 3 that have been there for years.i can see why you think that, some of the decisions made from the very top like the hospitality dont help us at all.
But having worked with a lot of the people at the club, some that are quite high in management, there are a lot them that love the atmosphere and want to help. They provide us with a lot of support, they are as keen as us.
A lot is knocked back by security levels and health and safety.
When it comes to those annoyances like electronic scoreboards that prevent hang over banners and hospitality popping up all over, this is a decision made by marketing and very high management looking at profit.
i can see why you think that, some of the decisions made from the very top like the hospitality dont help us at all.
But having worked with a lot of the people at the club, some that are quite high in management, there are a lot them that love the atmosphere and want to help. They provide us with a lot of support, they are as keen as us.
A lot is knocked back by security levels and health and safety.
When it comes to those annoyances like electronic scoreboards that prevent hang over banners and hospitality popping up all over, this is a decision made by marketing and very high management looking at profit.
How much were tickets today? Seemed a lot of empty seats. Early kick offs don’t help atmospheres but today was the most quiet of the season bar the shouting at the ref and their acting players.Atmopshere was non existent against Wolves and a lot of empty seats , when will the club realise our fan base is nothing like the Rags or Dippers , we are working class and local our support does not travel hundreds of miles and are not in the same financial position as all the out of towners who support the 'istree clubs.
But our club is now no different from any other with the ambitions to finish in the top four , there will be a pencil neck accountant who has never paid to attend a football match in his life ,working out how much each supporter will spend per head per game , including admission , food , drink, parking , programme etc, we are now a commodity , ive sent the club numerous e-mails and just get the standard bull shit scripted reply .
No chance i will ever again pay over £100 , incluidng all the expenses to watch us play a bunch of ragamuffins like Burnley or Wolves who contribute f*ck all to the entertainment , the club is losing its core support , and they need to wake up.