Etihad Atmosphere - 2022/23

Ideally at the front of L2, but that won't happen. Unfortunately I doubt the club would allow it, never mind consider it.

At the back of L2 would be good but would the noise/sound/chants spread down the stand with everyone else joining in constantly? Probably not. The flags and banner displays would be pointless up there.

The remaining option is on L1 behind the goal, which is pretty pointless as it won't get L2 or the rest of the stadium singing. It would just be another 115/SSL1.

I honestly don't know mate.
Why not level 2 ? That would be under the roof like the south stand ? If so it would be perfect for the noise to carry around the stadium
 
hard to say where singers would go, one of biggest questions is will singers move over, we potentially could see singers spread out further

we will be having meetings with the club on how best to improve atmosphere, we cant say where singers will be until it is passed and decided what is going where within the two tier develop. With hotel / corporate / standing and bars we dont know what is where yet.

if all goes to plan, time wise work will start towards end of season like the SS expansion, a lot can be pre done.
 
I think the issue with so much of this is how do you define a "singer"? What do you do with people who aren't singing? What do you do with the people in the south stand who get their kicks by giving it to the away end and don't want to be in a home end.

The simple answer is always "make the new area for [insert imagined demographic that will sing]" but there is no simple way of doing that legally or ethically.

Theres a lot of technical ideas for what seem to me cultural issues. And cultural issues are much harder to resolve.
 
Its simple go to the game open your mouths sing shout and cheer. Unless your in the south stand or the corner its not going to happen as no one can let themselves go and feel comfortable to do it without feeling a twat. Thats what has got to change.

So true.
It is folk that create the atmosphere not bricks and mortar.
All the ultra ends in Europe have one thing in common, the people want to be part of " something bigger " than an individual. That creates a sub culture representing the club.
We don't have that.
 
Traditionally the areas in all grounds where singers congregated were, coincidentally, the cheapest. If a big standing tier was priced correctly that would probably help.

Removing the safe standing in the corner and moving that rowdy lot into a new end, perhaps with some financial encouragement, could help.

I know some people want to be right next to the away fans but surely the club could persuade people that those days are over but in return you get a cheaper, bigger standing area? Most other supporters in more atmospheric stadiums than ours cope.
 
Absolutely, the bottom line is most can't be arsed backing the team, it's fucking tragic, the best sides we've had in our HISTORY and majority sit there like fucking Helen Keller, this is probably the BEST IT WILL EVER BE !! Wake up and smell the roses...
Agreed, we've never had it so good. It blows my mind that we have so many fans wanting to get home early and stay silent when we have this fantastic team. I think alot of fans have just lost an emotional connection with the club. I feels sad for the owners. They've done so much hard work to make this team one of the best clubs in the world and must wonder what more they can do to make the fans happy.
 
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I think the issue with so much of this is how do you define a "singer"? What do you do with people who aren't singing? What do you do with the people in the south stand who get their kicks by giving it to the away end and don't want to be in a home end.

The simple answer is always "make the new area for [insert imagined demographic that will sing]" but there is no simple way of doing that legally or ethically.

Theres a lot of technical ideas for what seem to me cultural issues. And cultural issues are much harder to resolve.
That’s part of the solution but the answer in mainland Europe is often to have ultras to regulate the main singing section. People who make no effort are pointed out and encouraged to raise their voices.

Some Blues have taken the piss by going into the singing section and made no effort to sing. That seems to be less of an issue this season though.
 
Why not level 2 ? That would be under the roof like the south stand ? If so it would be perfect for the noise to carry around the stadium

I would assume the club will make part of NSL2 corporate like SSL2 is.($adly) Isn't the plan to make L2 pretty much corporate and expensive seating?

A perfect scenario would be for the club to bite the bullet by improving the atmosphere first, install safe standing on NSL2, make the 2 central blocks on NSL2 official singing sections, and fill the other blocks on NSL2 with fans who want to stand and will join in singing.

1. Retain NSL1 as it is.
2. Retain NSL2 as it is and make the 2 central blocks the new singing sections where flags and 2 sticks can be waved, held up, and banners can be hung.
3. Build a stepped up NSL3 from NSL2 in the same stand, which would hold X thousands City fans.

The kids could stay in NSL1. Problem solved.
The new singing section/s would be in a prominent place on NSL2 so the whole stadium could see it and hear it including the away fans.
The home end would be complete with a large terrace of home fans on NSL3.(same terrace as NSL3, but stepped up)

To do this the club would have to sacrifice a new corporate area (I don't think the current corporate boxes will be retained in the expansion)
 
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I notice there are a lot of videos posted of other sets of fans and barely any, if any, ever, posted of City fans from when we’re good. Far too many of our fans are wanting to shift us away from our own club culture and completely ignore what we do well when we do it well.

I honestly think some people are more obsessed with this Ultras stuff than they are interested in our own long standing fans’ culture and songs… I think this is a justified opinion n’all with our SSL1 being very averse to singing proper City songs and looking at the list of City songs we no longer sing!

We get better videos from away fans of our atmosphere at the Etihad than we do from our own fans



Although this is a good one



Now, I don’t like people with their phones out during a game, so one thing I think we should organise is a proper video recording device pointed at our SSL1 for every game. Could be from the front of the stand or the back, wherever gives the best perspective, or move it around for different games… Crop the best bits and get a YouTube account set up and post the videos from each match. That will allow people to access the songs up close who don’t usually get to and get people learning the songs more.

I’ve posted this before and I hate to give United/United fans positivity but this sort of thing:


I think if SSL1 knew they were being filmed it would give them more of an emphasis on being vocal more n’all.
 

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