Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

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jrb said:
It's a good subject. But we're going around in circles. Yes, we do suffer from empty seats. But we still average over 50,000+ every home match.

Even though the Rags know that, and if they were honest, they would admit that is a good average attendance. But, the empty seat jibe is their latest weapon, and the only real weapon they have left to beat us with. As such they won't let up on it now.(wait until the derby)

That aside, as a club we should continue with the stadium expansion, regardless of empty seats and continued Emptyhad jibes.The demand is there for extra correctly priced season tickets. 1000's of them.

We have lost nearly 3 generations of support to the Rags via the Fergie years. That takes some catching up and rebuilding to do. Rome wasn't in a day, but via our owners and continued success on the pitch, we will continue to build our support and attract the next generations to City instead of them going to United.
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54,041 average attendance for the home PL matches last season in a stadium that has an official capacity of 55,097. allowing for segregation (is that allowed for in the official capacity figure?) and the lack of away fans at times in a poor season then there's surely no doubt that our owners know we need a bigger stadium.
 
My thoughts exactly, the nearest we have come close to competing with rags on attendances was in the early seventies before Peter Swales cocked things up, we only truly recovered from this when the Shiek bought the club. People are paronode about the rags and empty seats when the new stand is built and the capacity is around 61k if weaverage between 58 to 60k I thinks it's a great effort and attendances will only improve more with continued success. Also for those still obsessed with the rags Check with GMP who are supplied will accurate figures and The full houses posted in the press are not accurate their true attendances are regularly below this for midweek and cup games, but they like to keep myth alive that they sell out every week for every game.
 
ColinLee said:
54,041 average attendance for the home PL matches last season in a stadium that has an official capacity of 55,097. allowing for segregation (is that allowed for in the official capacity figure?) and the lack of away fans at times in a poor season then there's surely no doubt that our owners know we need a bigger stadium.
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are seats still lost to segregation? I thought the new barrier system meant that it was just a void space now with no seats netted off? Regardless of that though most league games sell out. If on the day some seats are empty they have still been sold and paid for, the club can't sell them twice so the only way to sell more is to build more seating. If they started work this afternoon on the expansion it would still not open until 18/19 season as final work needs to be concluded in a close season period, so those suggesting we should wait a season or two are ignoring the fact it will take a season or two to build it. The team is changing, the fan base is changing, the club is changing and further delay will slow down the momentum and could be irreversible if it drives new fans, new income, new opportunities away to neighbouring venues
 
jrb said:
It's a good subject. But we're going around in circles. Yes, we do suffer from empty seats. But we still average over 50,000+ every home match.

Even though the Rags know that, and if they were honest, they would admit that is a good average attendance. But, the empty seat jibe is their latest weapon, and the only real weapon they have left to beat us with. As such they won't let up on it now.(wait until the derby)

That aside, as a club we should continue with the stadium expansion, regardless of empty seats and continued Emptyhad jibes.The demand is there for extra correctly priced season tickets. 1000's of them.

We have lost nearly 3 generations of support to the Rags via the Fergie years. That takes some catching up and rebuilding to do. Rome wasn't built in a day, but via our owners and continued success on the pitch, we will continue to build our support and attract the next generations to City instead of them going to United.
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spot on jrb
 
jrb said:
It's a good subject. But we're going around in circles. Yes, we do suffer from empty seats. But we still average over 50,000+ every home match.

Even though the Rags know that, and if they were honest, they would admit that is a good average attendance. But, the empty seat jibe is their latest weapon, and the only real weapon they have left to beat us with. As such they won't let up on it now.(wait until the derby)

That aside, as a club we should continue with the stadium expansion, regardless of empty seats and continued Emptyhad jibes.The demand is there for extra correctly priced season tickets. 1000's of them.

We have lost nearly 3 generations of support to the Rags via the Fergie years. That takes some catching up and rebuilding to do. Rome wasn't built in a day, but via our owners and continued success on the pitch, we will continue to build our support and attract the next generations to City instead of them going to United.
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Great Post
 
I think it will be three tiers as well.

The empty space taken up in the South Stand by the Legends Lounge & 93:20 will probably be used for a new ticket office, club shop, museum etc.

Did we do the stands the right way round?

Maybe it would have been better if all the corporate was in the North Stand, opposite from the away fans and in with the families. We actually lost the Legends Lounge to Everton in the LC semi due to them having all the 2nd & 3rd tiers.

Having said that, it is definitely makes more sense to have things like a ticket office, museum, club shop at the north end, so swings and roundabouts I guess.

Once the north end is done we just need to make the South Stand bottom tier safe standing (after permission!) and we'll be sorted!
 
The empty seat jibes from the rags are born out of fear. They desperately don't won't us to keep expanding. They know that we went 35 years without a trophy and yet 5 years later we are already averaging 54,000. They know that the majority of this match day support lives within a 15 mile radius of Piccadilly. They know that we're selling cheap season tickets to families, who can't attend every match, to attract the next generation, in the local area, to our club. They know we've barely scratched the surface in out of town and overseas tourist type support. They know we got 40,000 for the deadest of dead rubbers in the CL qualifier.They know that our cup schemes are optional. They know that this season we could sellout a 60,000 stadium on at least half a dozen occasions and could average 57-58,000 for PL fixtures if we had space. They know that we're growing rapidly from a high base level of support that stuck with us through the decades of dross. They are afraid, very afraid.

Two tiers? Three tiers? Who cares? Just get the bloody thing built.
 
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