Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[worsleyweb]

City phoned me just before the season started,asked my if I'd like to upgrade the Legends,£6,500 for me and my lad(17),politely declined.
Fuck knows what a box would be.

Think they start at 30k - they are clearly over priced as they should be full every week - if they were 3k a game - they would be full every week as 10 lads treating themslelves once a season at 300 quid each would be a nice experience. I guess some are paying 40k a year and it is better business to have a few paying ludicrous money and have most empty rather than dumb them all down to a low reasonable level.

 

[gouldybob]

Don't give a fuck if we sell 55k sometimes when it holds 60 & have 5k empties. We will fill it on plenty of occasions.

Build it & soon enough we will regularly fill 60+ as routine. Then we can build some more.

Barca have loads of empty seats. Nobody cares.

^^ this. 40000 empty seats against Valencia in February and nobodies bothered...

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Think they start at 30k - they are clearly over priced as they should be full every week - if they were 3k a game - they would be full every week as 10 lads treating themslelves once a season at 300 quid each would be a nice experience. I guess some are paying 40k a year and it is better business to have a few paying ludicrous money and have most empty rather than dumb them all down to a low reasonable level.

Crazy money.

 

[gouldybob]

Think they start at 30k - they are clearly over priced as they should be full every week - if they were 3k a game - they would be full every week as 10 lads treating themslelves once a season at 300 quid each would be a nice experience. I guess some are paying 40k a year and it is better business to have a few paying ludicrous money and have most empty rather than dumb them all down to a low reasonable level.

But if you're a corporate package business not to bad. £30000 for a box of 10, 19 Prem, 4 Chumps, 1 FA Cup, 1 League Cup means average £1200 a game or £120 a seat. Not much more than the padded seats on the half way line. Real problem is £30000 up front

 

[Marvin]

21 consecutive league crowds of circa 54k. All we need to do is sell half of them at £400 seasoncards, and the ground stays at capacity.

Regarding the design, I think it is best to just repeat the South Stand. If you do a 2nd tier then wouldn't that result in the closure of the 2nd tier while it happened? There's not enough pluses to overcome that big negative.

 

[Neville Kneville]

21 consecutive league crowds of circa 54k. All we need to do is sell half of them at £400 seasoncards, and the ground stays at capacity.

Regarding the design, I think it is best to just repeat the South Stand. If you do a 2nd tier then wouldn't that result in the closure of the 2nd tier while it happened? There's not enough pluses to overcome that big negative.

Depends if they have a way of building the rest of the stand from the back.

 

[DiscoSteve]

Can't see how the back row of the north stand 2nd tier won't be affected next season during the build - will still need to put all that iron work in to prop up the third tier, just like the South Stand

As to how they build the third tier on top of the second - my view is that it will be a mirror image of the south stand (i.e. distinct 3rd tier) but just without the Legends Lounge, 93:20 and Joes Bar equivalents (presumably Joes bar will have to be renamed now) - and the Legends Lounge and 93:20 equivalent spaces will be available to be used in a different way - e.g. New Shop / Museum / Ticket Office etc - I think that means the original planning app is valid - and here are the relevant diagrams from the original Planning Application (Ref 104315 if you want to go look at the originals)

From the bottom up - behind first tier - the corporate lobby (in pink) may not get build quite the same

Next up is the second tier - all that stuff in pink behind the second tier concourse will be deployed differently if there is no 92:30 bars - also the work behind the east/west stands (in pink/yellow/blue) may well not happen either if there is no Joes Bars, they will just leave the existing concourses and their facilities as-is (fingers crossed for me).

Up again to what is the Legends Lounge in the South Stand - as you can see there was never anything in there in the planning up - just marked as Corporate Concourse Area

And finally up into the third tier - this I assume will be identical to the South Stand save for there being no away fan segregation

In theory on this last one you can count the seats (n a hires version) to work out what the capacity will go up to after the North Stand is done

 

[Jacko1956]

My thoughts go back to the earliest thread about this about 4 years ago, when the talk was the Megastore and the City square bars being incorporated within the stand.

Certainly think putting the club shop in it makes sense, City Square will have to be temporarily relocated when they begin the build. Once the stand is finished if you put the shop into the stand then City Square could be permanently based where the shop site is currently. Will just have to wait ans see.

 

[jrb]

It's a good subject. But we're going around in circles. Yes, we do suffer from empty seats. But we still average over 50,000+ every home match.

Even though the Rags know that, and if they were honest, they would admit that is a good average attendance. But, the empty seat jibe is their latest weapon, and the only real weapon they have left to beat us with. As such they won't let up on it now.(wait until the derby)

That aside, as a club we should continue with the stadium expansion, regardless of empty seats and continued Emptyhad jibes.The demand is there for extra correctly priced season tickets. 1000's of them.

We have lost nearly 3 generations of support to the Rags via the Fergie years. That takes some catching up and rebuilding to do. Rome wasn't built in a day, but via our owners and continued success on the pitch, we will continue to build our support and attract the next generations to City instead of them going to United.

 

[Jacko1956]

It's a good subject. But we're going around in circles. Yes, we do suffer from empty seats. But we still average over 50,000+ every home match.

Even though the Rags know that, and if they were honest, they would admit that is a good average attendance. But, the empty seat jibe is their latest weapon, and the only real weapon they have left to beat us with. As such they won't let up on it now.(wait until the derby)

That aside, as a club we should continue with the stadium expansion, regardless of empty seats and continued Emptyhad jibes.The demand is there for extra correctly priced season tickets. 1000's of them.

We have lost nearly 3 generations of support to the Rags via the Fergie years. That takes some catching up and rebuilding to do. Rome wasn't in a day, but via our owners and continued success on the pitch, we will continue to build our support and attract the next generations to City instead of them going to United.