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blue city199 said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Manchester-City-s-new-Football-Factory.html#

Some tit bits from the article
Kompany: 'The mood in this place is one that you can never stand still, never be satisfied. We have to keep going forward. We've had our difficulties, such as in the Champions League, but we want to go forward, we want more. It has all happened so quickly, it is phenomenal.
'When I came here, it was difficult to get the mix right between the great financial opportunity of playing for this club and the desire for sporting success. We had so much to prove. But after the first trophy (the 2011 FA Cup), it sets up everything else. Now we want more.'
Keown: 'I remember speaking to Yaya Toure three years ago. I didn’t think then that the club was ready to progress. It was like it was too much, too soon. But today, seeing all this and feeling the mood around the place, I feel Manchester City is ready. It is like a football factory is being created. It will help attract players and to develop your own. It’s the detail that is impressive.'
Kompany: 'We have yoga, a place to train at altitude where you can work for 30 minutes and it feels like two hours, use of the pools, brilliant chefs. We are tested for food intolerances and diets are adjusted accordingly.'
Vieira: 'And because of that, he (Kompany) can play until he is 37, 38, 40 with the medical advances here and the facilities we have. He can play three or four years longer than before.'
The facilities here are 'miles ahead' of those Vieira has experienced before. Even at Arsenal. At AC Milan. At Inter Milan. At Real Madrid, where he was shown around by Zinedine Zidane. At Clairefontaine, where France produced World Cup winners, including a 22-year-old Vieira.

Vieira explains: 'The next generation of players come in through the same entrance (as the first team), but then they turn left. The first team players turn right. They can watch them train, they can see it, they can smell it and they can see they need to have it.

Will this luxury help to deliver hungry street-warriors, or will they be too pampered? 'No, not too pampered. It will send out a message “you can achieve” to anyone who is talented enough to be here,' Vieira urges. Among those training currently are at least four juniors with significant Manchester United connections. The air might be turning blue in this city in more ways than one; the neighbours are more than noisy.

Keown is focusing again on the circular shape of the dressing room, facing Sergio Aguero’s locker. 'I can see there is no place for cliques, no hiding in corners.'
'It is designed like this so there is nowhere to hide,' says Vieira. The younger players have a dressing room that is the same shape, but smaller.

After leaving Vincent’s company, Vieira speaks firmly. 'That man should never be allowed to leave this club. He is mature, smart, the captain, yes. He has been a leader since he was young, you can see that. But he is more than that; he has to remain part of our future.
'What we are trying to do is build more than a team. We are building a football club. You need role models, people who are aspirational. Vincent is one man, Pablo Zabaleta is another. It’s not the way of English football to continue to use ex-players in this role, as it is in Germany. They should. It will happen here.'
It feels odd to see Vieira in such a significant role at City. Why is he not at Arsenal, where he played for nine years? It was Brian Marwood, football administrator and another ex-Arsenal player, who had the foresight to ensure it was City’s gain.
'I am at home here. I am working with Brian, who has been like a mentor to me. When I retired, he offered me a path and a future. There is nothing I would not do for City and, whatever I do next, it will only be with the blessing of this club.'

The junior players call him 'Patrick', not 'boss', but he explains: 'There is only one boss at this club and that is Manuel Pellegrini. I’m happy with “Patrick”. The young players show me respect… that is all that matters.'
He has decided he wants to be a manager, one day – 'I am 200 per cent sure,' he says. He is also aware that a black manager being successful would be significant. 'I would be naive if I didn’t recognise that, but I will only leave here if it is the right choice. It is important that I succeed; I want to be a great manager.' Like everything else at City, he seems to be on a journey.

The train journey back to London. Keown is summing up his day at Manchester City.
'That was no bulls*** show, was it? That club has a deeper vision, they are on a journey and they are creating pathways to the first team.
'The challenge now is to get young players – hopefully, young English players – through their system and playing for Manchester City in the Premier League.

'They know it is not about a building - it is what that leads to - but I like what they have done. The round dressing rooms… just like King Arthur and his knights; everyone is equal.
'They have built in the heart of Manchester, too, and they are creating a heart and an infrastructure.
'We heard the story today of the cleaner whose son used to pick up syringes on that ground where they have built. She said, “It has taken a man from the desert” to regenerate the region.

What is there not to be impressed with? I went to watch their Under 21s play against Reading and the entire first team turned up to watch. That doesn’t happen at other clubs. It told me they are all together.
'When you have players, leaders, like Vincent Kompany, that helps. I can't believe he is only 28. He’s still a baby. But what a winner, a leader. He is on the pitch and they have people like Patrick off the pitch. Pat will make a great manager one day, possibly for City - why should he go anywhere else and feel like he’s taking a step back?
'Us ex-Arsenal players question why he is at City and not Arsenal. I have found out why. He was a falling star and City rescued him, offered him direction. He does not forget. He is not an Arsenal man at City. He is a City man and they are lucky to have him.
'The money helps what City are doing, of course. But they are using it wisely. I told Vincent, “You have built a wonderful home”. We have seen something special. Something very special.'


Wow, just wow, this club will be the best club this country has seen, every bitter rag,gooner, spurs, scouse fan read and fucking weep.
 
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patrickblue said:
flb said:
78000 capacity! Let's just hope the powers that be follow the German model of cheap entry and season tickets. The club has the opportunity to make a groundbreaking PL statement in doing so.

I strongly suspect that is the intention. I also think that is a large part of the grief we are getting from the establishment, they are not only worried about us winning everything, but more concerned about the demise of the cash cow model they have successfully nurtured.


Seriously mate its this type of model that excites me the most and do you know what you just sense it will happen.
 
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marco said:
Ray78 said:
marco said:
thats about right for manchester

The bottom image is realistic but the top right is almost biblical.

i think whoever has done the pics has made the sky intimidating to make the stadium the same, great piece of work its going to look well when its done
Etihad-Stadium-Expansion-Plans.jpg


[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctCwI9-mbPc[/video]
 
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blue city199 said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Manchester-City-s-new-Football-Factory.html#

Some tit bits from the article
Kompany: 'The mood in this place...

Reading that actually made me feel emotional. It's incredible the way the City hierarchy have launched the CFA and there's absolutely no doubt that many from the media will now understand exactly what HRH is doing. There will still be the haters, but there will also be the Keown's. Loved the bit when he and other ex-Arsenal players questioned why Vieira's at City and not Arsenal and he now fully understands.

I'm off for a cry...
 
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St Georges Park is being hyped as the future of English football, however what the wider football world doesn't recognise yet is that England stars of the future will be developed at the CFA and not at there.
 
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Patrick Vieira said:
'I am at home here. I am working with Brian, who has been like a mentor to me. When I retired, he offered me a path and a future. There is nothing I would not do for City and, whatever I do next, it will only be with the blessing of this club.'
 
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Am i missing something here, where does the 78,000 capacity come from?
 
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I was really excited seeing the new developments on TV yesterday. I open my copy of TheTimes today (I only buy it as I'm addicted to the crossword) and see a big article by one James Ducker, "Northern Football Correspondent", who rarely misses a chance to slag City off and whom I have long suspected of being a rag.

There's hardly a good word about the new set-up, only a lot of stuff about how few academy players we have produced, whilst Utd have already this season blooded Blackett & McSomebody, and the new campus will only be any good if it produces first-team players, and that will not be for many years yet.

I finished the article feeling pretty deflated, and what with the other lot scraping a win somehow (again), Kun out for ages and now our new set-up is miles off producing anything yet, I feel like reaching for the single malt already.

Did anyone else read this stuff, or can any tecnnogeek copy a bit out? Or am I out of touch with reality? I just wonder what Ducker would have written had it been his beloved Reds who have done all this.

I shall think up a limerick: There was a reporter called Ducker
A miserable biased old.... (can't think of a rhyme for Ducker)
 
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Big Swifty said:
I was really excited seeing the new developments on TV yesterday. I open my copy of TheTimes today (I only buy it as I'm addicted to the crossword) and see a big article by one James Ducker, "Northern Football Correspondent", who rarely misses a chance to slag City off and whom I have long suspected of being a rag.

There's hardly a good word about the new set-up, only a lot of stuff about how few academy players we have produced, whilst Utd have already this season blooded Blackett & McSomebody, and the new campus will only be any good if it produces first-team players, and that will not be for many years yet.

I finished the article feeling pretty deflated, and what with the other lot scraping a win somehow (again), Kun out for ages and now our new set-up is miles off producing anything yet, I feel like reaching for the single malt already.

Did anyone else read this stuff, or can any tecnnogeek copy a bit out? Or am I out of touch with reality? I just wonder what Ducker would have written had it been his beloved Reds who have done all this.

I shall think up a limerick: There was a reporter called Ducker
A miserable biased old.... (can't think of a rhyme for Ducker)



This is the Ducker article, it is extraordinarily bitter!



It is, first and foremost, a stunning development: vast in its scale, meticulous in its attention to detail and awe-inspiring in its ambition. Long after Sheikh Mansour has moved on to other things, the City Football Academy will stand as a monument to the Abu Dhabi billionaire’s transformation of Manchester City and this previously neglected enclave of the city’s east side.

The new £200 million training complex, which formally opened yesterday a stone’s throw, or rather, a 190-metre walk over an interconnecting bridge from the Etihad Stadium, will serve everything from the first team to the under-6s in addition to almost all the club’s off-field operations.

Take a walking tour around this sprawling, 80-acre site and it is hard to believe that this is the same club Joe Royle, the former City manager, once joked would have a bulging trophy cabinet if only cups were dished out for “cock-ups”. From the 7,000-capacity Academy Stadium to the other 15½ pitches and an academy building that has space to house tired, taxi-servicing parents overnight, to the hydrotherapy pools, multiple gyms and 32 en-suite bedrooms that comprise the first team’s headquarters, it is easy to see how the complex went through 19 different design versions after exhaustive analysis of 70 sporting facilities in nine countries across four continents. Patrick Vieira, the manager of City’s under-21 team, calls it a “no excuses” environment but that is where the more pressing questions start.

Amid myriad statistics, there is one figure that underlines the size of the challenge facing the Barclays Premier League champions as they attempt to develop a conveyor belt of young talent. Since Mansour’s takeover in September 2008, only one academy graduate who had not already won promotion to the first team — Dedryck Boyata — has made more than one top-flight start for City. No English academy graduate who was not already established has achieved that in six years and the most recent member of the Elite Development Squad (EDS) to force his way into Manuel Pellegrini’s plans was José Ángel Pozo, a Spaniard signed from Real Madrid for £1.2 million in 2012. In contrast, eight of the players who featured in Barcelona’s Champions League final triumph over Manchester United in 2011 were products of the Catalan club’s famed La Masia academy, with another two among the unused substitutes.

Survey the “roll of honour” of City first-team graduates that lines one corridor of the academy building and, beyond the omission of Ched Evans, the convicted rapist and former Wales striker who made 26 appearances for the club between 2007 and 2009, what resonates is how stiff a task the club face just trying to deliver one homespun talent who can consistently challenge for a place in Pellegrini’s squad.

When the manager needed a left- footed centre half in the summer, did he turn to Karim Rekik, the promising 20-year-old Holland defender at present in the middle of his second season on loan at PSV Eindhoven? No, City went out and spent £40 million (not £32 million as was originally quoted) on Eliaquim Mangala, a 23-year-old France centre back who may well develop into a world-beater in time but who has endured a tough introduction to English football.

Was it wrong that City wanted to buy Mangala? Of course not, but at what cost does his arrival come to Rekik’s chances of progress at the club? City will dislike the comparison with Manchester United but Louis van Gaal’s promotion of Paddy McNair and Tyler Blackett, 19 and 20-year-old academy graduates respectively, to the first team during his first few months in charge at Old Trafford, albeit in the face of a dreadful injury crisis, does the champions few favours.

And Vieira admits it could be six more years before the academy delivers a homegrown first-team player.

“It could be five years, it can be six, it can be four,” Viera said. “We have a clear idea how we want to develop these young players. We have to be patient, work hard and see who will be the next elite player. The good thing is we have a manager who takes in every day players from the EDS training with the first team. At the moment the gap is massive between under-21 level and first team and we need to bridge that gap.”

Micah Richards was the most recent academy graduate to establish himself as a first-team regular during the post- Abu Dhabi revolution but the defender, on loan at Fiorentina as his City career draws to an end, identified a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what the club is trying to achieve.

Will Pellegrini and his future successors be prepared to gamble on youth if they are stalked by a persistent fear for their jobs?

“I feel a little bit sorry for the youngsters at City because they have got some really good ones,” Richards said last month. “They are not going to get a chance because whoever is in the managerial role is under pressure to get results.”

Pablo Zabaleta, the Argentinian who dislodged Richards as City’s first-choice right back, is more optimistic and insisted that, for emerging academy talents, the new facility will “100 per cent” help to ease that path to the first team, despite adding the caveat that “we need to be realistic and say that it’s difficult for them”.

How difficult remains to be seen.
 
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Thanks for the copy, Carstairs. As you say, it is extraordinarily bitter. As if he were rooting round for the negatives.

Glad you agree.
 
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Wow, that is truly one of the most bitter articles I've seen in a while. Can't imagine he'll get too many more invites to anything of ours if that's how he repays our niceness
 
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Carstairs said:
Big Swifty said:
I was really excited seeing the new developments on TV yesterday. I open my copy of TheTimes today (I only buy it as I'm addicted to the crossword) and see a big article by one James Ducker, "Northern Football Correspondent", who rarely misses a chance to slag City off and whom I have long suspected of being a rag.

There's hardly a good word about the new set-up, only a lot of stuff about how few academy players we have produced, whilst Utd have already this season blooded Blackett & McSomebody, and the new campus will only be any good if it produces first-team players, and that will not be for many years yet.

I finished the article feeling pretty deflated, and what with the other lot scraping a win somehow (again), Kun out for ages and now our new set-up is miles off producing anything yet, I feel like reaching for the single malt already.

Did anyone else read this stuff, or can any tecnnogeek copy a bit out? Or am I out of touch with reality? I just wonder what Ducker would have written had it been his beloved Reds who have done all this.

I shall think up a limerick: There was a reporter called Ducker
A miserable biased old.... (can't think of a rhyme for Ducker)



This is the Ducker article, it is extraordinarily bitter!



It is, first and foremost, a stunning development: vast in its scale, meticulous in its attention to detail and awe-inspiring in its ambition. Long after Sheikh Mansour has moved on to other things, the City Football Academy will stand as a monument to the Abu Dhabi billionaire’s transformation of Manchester City and this previously neglected enclave of the city’s east side.

The new £200 million training complex, which formally opened yesterday a stone’s throw, or rather, a 190-metre walk over an interconnecting bridge from the Etihad Stadium, will serve everything from the first team to the under-6s in addition to almost all the club’s off-field operations.

Take a walking tour around this sprawling, 80-acre site and it is hard to believe that this is the same club Joe Royle, the former City manager, once joked would have a bulging trophy cabinet if only cups were dished out for “cock-ups”. From the 7,000-capacity Academy Stadium to the other 15½ pitches and an academy building that has space to house tired, taxi-servicing parents overnight, to the hydrotherapy pools, multiple gyms and 32 en-suite bedrooms that comprise the first team’s headquarters, it is easy to see how the complex went through 19 different design versions after exhaustive analysis of 70 sporting facilities in nine countries across four continents. Patrick Vieira, the manager of City’s under-21 team, calls it a “no excuses” environment but that is where the more pressing questions start.

Amid myriad statistics, there is one figure that underlines the size of the challenge facing the Barclays Premier League champions as they attempt to develop a conveyor belt of young talent. Since Mansour’s takeover in September 2008, only one academy graduate who had not already won promotion to the first team — Dedryck Boyata — has made more than one top-flight start for City. No English academy graduate who was not already established has achieved that in six years and the most recent member of the Elite Development Squad (EDS) to force his way into Manuel Pellegrini’s plans was José Ángel Pozo, a Spaniard signed from Real Madrid for £1.2 million in 2012. In contrast, eight of the players who featured in Barcelona’s Champions League final triumph over Manchester United in 2011 were products of the Catalan club’s famed La Masia academy, with another two among the unused substitutes.

Survey the “roll of honour” of City first-team graduates that lines one corridor of the academy building and, beyond the omission of Ched Evans, the convicted rapist and former Wales striker who made 26 appearances for the club between 2007 and 2009, what resonates is how stiff a task the club face just trying to deliver one homespun talent who can consistently challenge for a place in Pellegrini’s squad.

When the manager needed a left- footed centre half in the summer, did he turn to Karim Rekik, the promising 20-year-old Holland defender at present in the middle of his second season on loan at PSV Eindhoven? No, City went out and spent £40 million (not £32 million as was originally quoted) on Eliaquim Mangala, a 23-year-old France centre back who may well develop into a world-beater in time but who has endured a tough introduction to English football.

Was it wrong that City wanted to buy Mangala? Of course not, but at what cost does his arrival come to Rekik’s chances of progress at the club? City will dislike the comparison with Manchester United but Louis van Gaal’s promotion of Paddy McNair and Tyler Blackett, 19 and 20-year-old academy graduates respectively, to the first team during his first few months in charge at Old Trafford, albeit in the face of a dreadful injury crisis, does the champions few favours.

And Vieira admits it could be six more years before the academy delivers a homegrown first-team player.

“It could be five years, it can be six, it can be four,” Viera said. “We have a clear idea how we want to develop these young players. We have to be patient, work hard and see who will be the next elite player. The good thing is we have a manager who takes in every day players from the EDS training with the first team. At the moment the gap is massive between under-21 level and first team and we need to bridge that gap.”

Micah Richards was the most recent academy graduate to establish himself as a first-team regular during the post- Abu Dhabi revolution but the defender, on loan at Fiorentina as his City career draws to an end, identified a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what the club is trying to achieve.

Will Pellegrini and his future successors be prepared to gamble on youth if they are stalked by a persistent fear for their jobs?

“I feel a little bit sorry for the youngsters at City because they have got some really good ones,” Richards said last month. “They are not going to get a chance because whoever is in the managerial role is under pressure to get results.”

Pablo Zabaleta, the Argentinian who dislodged Richards as City’s first-choice right back, is more optimistic and insisted that, for emerging academy talents, the new facility will “100 per cent” help to ease that path to the first team, despite adding the caveat that “we need to be realistic and say that it’s difficult for them”.

How difficult remains to be seen.

Love the sheer bitterness and jealousy masquerading as concern lol.
 
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Ducker is just another embittered cockroach.
 
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Big Swifty said:
I was really excited seeing the new developments on TV yesterday. I open my copy of TheTimes today (I only buy it as I'm addicted to the crossword) and see a big article by one James Ducker, "Northern Football Correspondent", who rarely misses a chance to slag City off and whom I have long suspected of being a rag.

There's hardly a good word about the new set-up, only a lot of stuff about how few academy players we have produced, whilst Utd have already this season blooded Blackett & McSomebody, and the new campus will only be any good if it produces first-team players, and that will not be for many years yet.

I finished the article feeling pretty deflated, and what with the other lot scraping a win somehow (again), Kun out for ages and now our new set-up is miles off producing anything yet, I feel like reaching for the single malt already.

Did anyone else read this stuff, or can any tecnnogeek copy a bit out? Or am I out of touch with reality? I just wonder what Ducker would have written had it been his beloved Reds who have done all this.

I shall think up a limerick: There was a reporter called Ducker
A miserable biased old.... (can't think of a rhyme for Ducker)

Having seen Blackett and McNair play, the latter most notably last night when he was hooked after half an hour, we wouldn't want to be blooding useless lumps like that in any case.

As to his reference to Joe Royle - there's me thinking it was Francis Lee who invented the cups for cock-ups line!!
 
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Hmm Ducker seems to be a little short sighted. Maybe the CFA is an answer to all the criticism being levelled at City. It's not like Sheik Mansour has sat down and said "I don't care that we've had no progress up through the ranks so lets waste money on resources to give our Young players the best possible chance of success." Seems weird to use this as a negative especially when it is meant to solve the problems highlighted by Ducker. Hope Ducker doesn't end up covering the cure for the common cold

"After 6 years of concerted effort and expense scientists have discovered the cure for the common cold. But it is too little too late as several people have caught colds in the past. It's a pity that scientists could not be more like those employed by the famous Trafford Medical Society who whilst spending millions developing a cure for cancer accidentally discovered lemsip"
 
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Carstairs said:
Big Swifty said:
I was really excited seeing the new developments on TV yesterday. I open my copy of TheTimes today (I only buy it as I'm addicted to the crossword) and see a big article by one James Ducker, "Northern Football Correspondent", who rarely misses a chance to slag City off and whom I have long suspected of being a rag.

There's hardly a good word about the new set-up, only a lot of stuff about how few academy players we have produced, whilst Utd have already this season blooded Blackett & McSomebody, and the new campus will only be any good if it produces first-team players, and that will not be for many years yet.

I finished the article feeling pretty deflated, and what with the other lot scraping a win somehow (again), Kun out for ages and now our new set-up is miles off producing anything yet, I feel like reaching for the single malt already.

Did anyone else read this stuff, or can any tecnnogeek copy a bit out? Or am I out of touch with reality? I just wonder what Ducker would have written had it been his beloved Reds who have done all this.

I shall think up a limerick: There was a reporter called Ducker
A miserable biased old.... (can't think of a rhyme for Ducker)



This is the Ducker article, it is extraordinarily bitter!



It is, first and foremost, a stunning development: vast in its scale, meticulous in its attention to detail and awe-inspiring in its ambition. Long after Sheikh Mansour has moved on to other things, the City Football Academy will stand as a monument to the Abu Dhabi billionaire’s transformation of Manchester City and this previously neglected enclave of the city’s east side.

And long may the nay-sayers believe this. They're still in the era of owners buying and selling for quick profit and cannot quite grasp the Sheikh's and his trusted management teams' visionary policies. Probably why they're stuck making a living criticizing and moaning instead of doing something constructive.
 
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Another nice article
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-citys-new-200m-hq-4770176






Man City's new £200m HQ part of our plan to overtake Real Madrid and Barcelona says Vincent Kompany

08 December 2014 10:30 PM Oliver Holt

Blues' captain explains how training complex unveiled on Monday will see first-teamers like him take a hands-on role in grooming kids to replace them


Man City's new £200m HQ part of our plan to overtake Real Madrid and Barcelona says Vincent Kompany
08 December 2014 10:30 PM Oliver Holt
Blues' captain explains how training complex unveiled on Monday will see first-teamers like him take a hands-on role in grooming kids to replace them
Manchester-City-club-captain-Vincent-Kompany-at-the-Etihad-Stadium.jpg Julian Hamilton/Daily Mirror
Class apart: Kompany has advice for City youngsters who will learn from him - and a warning
Vincent Kompany had watched his daughter’s nativity play earlier in the afternoon. She had played the part of Mary.

Now, he was striding into the foyer of the first team section of Manchester City’s magnificent new training complex.

Birth and rebirth were dominating his day. It was not just at home that the City captain was feeling like a proud parent.

The facilities at the 80-acre complex adjacent to the Etihad Stadium are the most potent, encouraging symbol yet of the Mancunian Blues’ emergence as a football superpower.


It is not just the estimated £200m that has been spent on the City Football Academy, which was officially opened on Monday. It is not just the scale of the ambition that the project reflects.

It is the attention to detail, the loving regeneration of a swathe of the inner city and the determination to make a difference to the local community.

The site is daunting proof for their rivals that City are not just here to stay in football’s elite but that they are set on growing stronger and stronger.

Inside, Kompany sat in his place in the circular dressing room, football’s equivalent of a round table, designed to stress togetherness, not hierarchy.

Above the centre of the changing room, a lightwell led up to a players’ lounge, a design gleaned from the University of Oregon.

A few feet away, a door opened on to a hydrotherapy complex including a resistance pool and an underwater treadmill.

On the first floor, a canteen overlooked a massive indoor training pitch that will be the province of the academy players. On the floor above, there was a luxury 32-room hotel for the players and staff.

Patrick Vieira, the boss of City’s Elite Development Squad and widely seen as a future first team manager, stopped to talk as he passed through.

Manchester City open £200m training academy

He spoke about how these facilities could help City compete with giants like Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Kompany knows that, too.

The City Football Academy can be a game-changer for the club in the battle to attract the best talent. But as he sat amid this football opulence, the Belgian centre-back made a point that may be even more valuable than the money lavished on the CFA.

There was a danger, he admitted, that a kid from City’s academy might think he’s made it with access to facilities like this. There was a danger that a kid who has high-pressure air jets to clean his boots instead of soap and water might get a little complacent.

At some clubs, first team players wouldn’t care about that. At most clubs, they wouldn’t see it.

For Kompany, the real joy of City’s new arrangements is that the first teamers will be able to guide the lads they hope will be the stars of the future.

“If you want to do things right, you need to create legacy and culture,” he said. “You want the young kids that come through the academy to be able to look up to those who are there playing in front of 50,000 every day. You don’t get that if you have the youth at one site at Platt Lane and we are training outside of Manchester at Carrington.

Blue sky thinking: Vincent Kompany gives our Oliver Holt the tour of City's new digs

“The fact we’re in the heart of Manchester now means that we have a greater bond with the community and the surrounding areas, which are massively Blue.

"We might be a step behind Barcelona and Real Madrid in terms of their history of winning but that does not mean you cannot end up a step ahead of everyone.

“Within these walls there is a very high number of rules. You don’t just come here and enjoy the comfort.

There are a lot of things we [the first team] can see from the windows upstairs. If one of the kids is out of line, we can step in. We are there. Tell me what club can do that. What we do is directly reflected in what they will do.

“Am I interested enough to do that? Yeah. I’m passionate about it.

"There are other guys in the dressing room who are the same. Aleksandar Kolarov and Joe Hart among others. We are united about that.


Man City's new training complex in pictures:


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It’s already happening. We share our facilities with the Under-21s sometimes and we saw some of the younger ones enjoying the Jacuzzi a bit too much.

They have to learn about recovery, so we pulled them out of the Jacuzzi and told them about the cold pools. They’re not as enjoyable as the Jacuzzi but the first team stepped in and made sure they did it.

“Within these walls, the youth players will not get the feeling of ‘I can be a celebrity by making it as a footballer’. They are going to get the feeling of how hard it is to become a first team footballer
. A lot of people underestimate that but here, they are going to feel it.

“Sure, they get a few perks. They don’t have to brush their boots with soap and water, so you give them a bit. But what is expected of them here is a lot higher than anywhere else.


“I remember when I was a kid at Anderlecht that if one of the first team players said something to me it would become like gold that I could cherish for the rest of my life. The amount of opportunities we are going to get to do that here is fantastic.”

That is Kompany’s challenge. He is only 28 but carries the gravitas of a father-figure at a club that has been a whirl of change.

Amid the riches, he needs to ensure hunger survives.

He added: “Since the first day this club was bought by the owners, we have had to accept the image that has been put on us. But we don’t live by this image.

"You can talk about a money-spending club but if you talk about the money spent on facilities like this and community work and expanding the stadium and getting the lowest ticket prices, well, there is a lot that people don’t see.

“You have to accept you have a certain image and it won’t change quickly, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have to do things right.”
 
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Poor Ducker, he just doesn't get it does he?

Long after Sheikh Mansour has moved on to other things, the City Football Academy will stand as a monument to the Abu Dhabi billionaire’s transformation of Manchester City and this previously neglected enclave of the city’s east side

I wonder how long Mansour will have to be here before cockroaches like him realise that he's not going anywhere? The irony of criticising us for buying players while praising United is spectacularly dense as well, this year of all years!
 
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stony said:
Ducker is just another embittered cockroach.
He has to write a balanced article. There are only positives to the academy, but there are question marks. The building creates opportunity, but it leaves questions unanswered.

An objective article should credit City for the construction, but point out that the record to date of producing 1st team players is recently very poor, and the construction in itself guarantees nothing. The bar has been raised extraordinarily high by the standard of the first team pool.
 
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Carstairs said:
Big Swifty said:
I was really excited seeing the new developments on TV yesterday. I open my copy of TheTimes today (I only buy it as I'm addicted to the crossword) and see a big article by one James Ducker, "Northern Football Correspondent", who rarely misses a chance to slag City off and whom I have long suspected of being a rag.

There's hardly a good word about the new set-up, only a lot of stuff about how few academy players we have produced, whilst Utd have already this season blooded Blackett & McSomebody, and the new campus will only be any good if it produces first-team players, and that will not be for many years yet.

I finished the article feeling pretty deflated, and what with the other lot scraping a win somehow (again), Kun out for ages and now our new set-up is miles off producing anything yet, I feel like reaching for the single malt already.

Did anyone else read this stuff, or can any tecnnogeek copy a bit out? Or am I out of touch with reality? I just wonder what Ducker would have written had it been his beloved Reds who have done all this.

I shall think up a limerick: There was a reporter called Ducker
A miserable biased old.... (can't think of a rhyme for Ducker)



This is the Ducker article, it is extraordinarily bitter!



It is, first and foremost, a stunning development: vast in its scale, meticulous in its attention to detail and awe-inspiring in its ambition. Long after Sheikh Mansour has moved on to other things, the City Football Academy will stand as a monument to the Abu Dhabi billionaire’s transformation of Manchester City and this previously neglected enclave of the city’s east side.

The new £200 million training complex, which formally opened yesterday a stone’s throw, or rather, a 190-metre walk over an interconnecting bridge from the Etihad Stadium, will serve everything from the first team to the under-6s in addition to almost all the club’s off-field operations.

Take a walking tour around this sprawling, 80-acre site and it is hard to believe that this is the same club Joe Royle, the former City manager, once joked would have a bulging trophy cabinet if only cups were dished out for “cock-ups”. From the 7,000-capacity Academy Stadium to the other 15½ pitches and an academy building that has space to house tired, taxi-servicing parents overnight, to the hydrotherapy pools, multiple gyms and 32 en-suite bedrooms that comprise the first team’s headquarters, it is easy to see how the complex went through 19 different design versions after exhaustive analysis of 70 sporting facilities in nine countries across four continents. Patrick Vieira, the manager of City’s under-21 team, calls it a “no excuses” environment but that is where the more pressing questions start.

Amid myriad statistics, there is one figure that underlines the size of the challenge facing the Barclays Premier League champions as they attempt to develop a conveyor belt of young talent. Since Mansour’s takeover in September 2008, only one academy graduate who had not already won promotion to the first team — Dedryck Boyata — has made more than one top-flight start for City. No English academy graduate who was not already established has achieved that in six years and the most recent member of the Elite Development Squad (EDS) to force his way into Manuel Pellegrini’s plans was José Ángel Pozo, a Spaniard signed from Real Madrid for £1.2 million in 2012. In contrast, eight of the players who featured in Barcelona’s Champions League final triumph over Manchester United in 2011 were products of the Catalan club’s famed La Masia academy, with another two among the unused substitutes.

Survey the “roll of honour” of City first-team graduates that lines one corridor of the academy building and, beyond the omission of Ched Evans, the convicted rapist and former Wales striker who made 26 appearances for the club between 2007 and 2009, what resonates is how stiff a task the club face just trying to deliver one homespun talent who can consistently challenge for a place in Pellegrini’s squad.

When the manager needed a left- footed centre half in the summer, did he turn to Karim Rekik, the promising 20-year-old Holland defender at present in the middle of his second season on loan at PSV Eindhoven? No, City went out and spent £40 million (not £32 million as was originally quoted) on Eliaquim Mangala, a 23-year-old France centre back who may well develop into a world-beater in time but who has endured a tough introduction to English football.

Was it wrong that City wanted to buy Mangala? Of course not, but at what cost does his arrival come to Rekik’s chances of progress at the club? City will dislike the comparison with Manchester United but Louis van Gaal’s promotion of Paddy McNair and Tyler Blackett, 19 and 20-year-old academy graduates respectively, to the first team during his first few months in charge at Old Trafford, albeit in the face of a dreadful injury crisis, does the champions few favours.

And Vieira admits it could be six more years before the academy delivers a homegrown first-team player.

“It could be five years, it can be six, it can be four,” Viera said. “We have a clear idea how we want to develop these young players. We have to be patient, work hard and see who will be the next elite player. The good thing is we have a manager who takes in every day players from the EDS training with the first team. At the moment the gap is massive between under-21 level and first team and we need to bridge that gap.”

Micah Richards was the most recent academy graduate to establish himself as a first-team regular during the post- Abu Dhabi revolution but the defender, on loan at Fiorentina as his City career draws to an end, identified a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what the club is trying to achieve.

Will Pellegrini and his future successors be prepared to gamble on youth if they are stalked by a persistent fear for their jobs?

“I feel a little bit sorry for the youngsters at City because they have got some really good ones,” Richards said last month. “They are not going to get a chance because whoever is in the managerial role is under pressure to get results.”

Pablo Zabaleta, the Argentinian who dislodged Richards as City’s first-choice right back, is more optimistic and insisted that, for emerging academy talents, the new facility will “100 per cent” help to ease that path to the first team, despite adding the caveat that “we need to be realistic and say that it’s difficult for them”.

How difficult remains to be seen.
His gratuitous (in the context of this article) reference to Ched Evans' rape conviction tells you all you need to know about his mindset when he wrote that article. If he wants to draw comparisons, Southampton would have been much more analogous than united. City are looking to produce truly top talent, something united haven't done for over two decades. His slightly modified "when the Sheikh gets bored" reference in his first paragraph also belies his wishful thinking, although he seems to at least finally acknowledge that we're not going away. This acceptance wasn't always reflected in Ducker's writing output, it should be said.

Also, it is an utter disgrace that a well paid 'northern correspondent' for such an estimable paper as the Times wrongly attributes that 'cup for cock ups' quote to Joe Royle during the tenure of his management at City. It was Francis Lee when he was a player at the club. Fucking unprofessional dilettante. .

The standard of football writers in this country is utterly appalling.
 
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