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Mike N said:
Looking forward to seeing the progress on the extension on Saturday. The last time I passed the ground work had started on the opposite end of the roof. Looks like things have really speeded up in the past few weeks.

Roof spars are mostly in and they've started putting up the framework for slotting in the glazing wrap around the bottom two floors. Looking good.
 
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Does anyone know ?.
What if City were allowed to insert those "standing seats" in the South Stand what increase would there be - in attendance - ? Any guesses?.

I seem to have read somewhere that - for example - Borussia Dortmund can have 80,000 gates for league games -(The Yellow Wall - 40,000)
but for Champs. Lge they revert to seats and reduces capacity to 25,000.

Any ideas?.
 
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Not that it will happen but I think capacity in Rail Seat area basically doubles does it not when standing - so the 6,250 seats would become 12,500 standing spaces - so theoretically that would take the capacity to over 60,000 with the South Stand done and about 75,000 with both ends done - and whilst we're in fantasy land because by my reckoning the Etihad is good for about 71,500 with the sides done, all-seater, we would get to about 84,000 - an irritating 500 or so short of our English record at Maine Road... ;-)
 
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DiscoSteve said:
Not that it will happen but I think capacity in Rail Seat area basically doubles does it not when standing - so the 6,250 seats would become 12,500 standing spaces - so theoretically that would take the capacity to over 60,000 with the South Stand done and about 75,000 with both ends done - and whilst we're in fantasy land because by my reckoning the Etihad is good for about 71,500 with the sides done, all-seater, we would get to about 84,000 - an irritating 500 or so short of our English record at Maine Road... ;-)

IIRC its 1.8x the amount of 'usual' seats, since the rows themselves need to be wider to accomodate 2 standing per each seat space. So if they made SS1 safe standing, capacity would increase by 5,000. We can always dream....
 
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Going off topic, but a Guardian editorial earlier in the week praised Manchester's policy on arts funding. Text below, or link here: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/16/guardian-view-cultural-cities-manchester-shows-way" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -shows-way</a>

The Guardian view of cultural cities: Manchester shows the way

Editorial

Not every city is as big or as famous as Manchester, but the way it has used the arts for civic growth is something others can learn from

There was a sense of joy in Manchester as the Whitworth art gallery reopened at the weekend. On Friday, the art worlds of Manchester, Glasgow and London converged to celebrate its £15m renewal with a memorably explosive fireworks display (or meteor shower, as it was poetically described). On Saturday and Sunday about 18,000 members of the public came to see the art and hear music from Manchester Camerata and the Hallé Youth Choir.

Such was the feeling of newly minted municipal pride one could have been forgiven for thinking one had fallen through a chink in time to the days before the banking crisis. But then the refurbishment of the Whitworth (a gallery that CP Scott, owner and editor of the Manchester Guardian, was instrumental in establishing in 1889) is merely one in a series of major events in the city’s artistic life. The Central Library reopened last spring after a £50m revamp; the Royal Northern College of Music completed a £7.1m refurbishment of its concert hall in the autumn; Manchester School of Art has opened a new £34m building. The £25m Home – a theatre, five-screen cinema and gallery – opens this April. And in July, the Manchester international festival will take over the city with its programme of eye-catching artistic collaborations.

The council is the driving force behind all this, with cash also coming from the city’s universities, the Heritage Lottery Fund and other bodies. Its longstanding leader, Sir Richard Leese, and chief executive, Sir Howard Bernstein, have an unwavering vision for the city, and its cultural development is entirely of a piece with Sir Howard’s canny deal with chancellor George Osborne for increased spending power (known as Devo-Manc locally) and, as announced in last year’s autumn statement, more cash (including for yet another cultural building, the £78m Factory). Manchester wants to run its own affairs, and it wants to stand out.

It is reasonable to ask why Manchester should be so fervently supporting the arts, regarded by many austerity-pressed British cities as a nice-to-have rather than a necessity. The reason is that Manchester sees culture as part of its growth strategy. A flourishing arts scene promotes the city as a destination for tourism and attracts businesses. Cultural regeneration does not work for every post-industrial town, but it does in Manchester because of a strong artistic history that includes the Hallé, the Royal Exchange theatre and its outpouring of pop music from the late 1970s. Perhaps most important of all, there is an understanding in Manchester that investing in culture makes it a better place for all its inhabitants.

When Home opens its doors, it will do so not with a funding grant from the council but with a service contract stating that it will provide social benefit to the community, especially the most disadvantaged. Places such as the Whitworth work with children, and with sufferers from dementia. The view in Manchester is not that cultural organisations divert cash from society’s most pressing problems but that they are the bodies best placed to help. Many other communities – and the government – could learn from that.

And just seen something from The Guardian last week about the Whitworth Gallery but interesting about Manchester in more general terms, too. Again, text below, while the link is here: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/09/maria-balshaw-whitworth-manchester-art-gallery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... rt-gallery</a>

Maria Balshaw: ‘Galleries that have collections like ours don’t usually reside in Moss Side’

Director of the Whitworth in Manchester on an exciting new chapter for the art gallery

Helen Pidd, northern editor
Monday 9 February 2015

The Whitworth in Manchester is one of the most important galleries in Britain, but until recently a would-be visitor would have been hard-pressed to notice it. Built from the same imposing red brick as the Royal Infirmary opposite , with a messy car park in front, it looks more like part of the Edwardian hospital estate than a globally significant cultural institution that started collecting Picassos long before the Tate caught on.

The gallery was founded in 1889 by a group of socially minded philanthropists, including the Manchester Guardian’s former owner John Edward Taylor, who bequeathed 266 watercolours and drawings from the likes of Turner, Blake and Cozens. Envisioned as a cultural palace for the people, free to enter, it was supposed to expand the minds of the city’s factory workers in their downtime.

But the imposing brickwork and gloomy galleries put off modern audiences, according to Maria Balshaw, who runs the gallery. “They were intimidated,” she says.

So, shortly after becoming director of the Whitworth in 2006, Balshaw began a £15m project to bring the gallery into the 21st century. After begging £8m from the Heritage Lottery Fund, plus millions more from Manchester University, which owns the site, she has overseen a significant revamp by architects MUMA.

Doubling the public space of the gallery, the redesign marries the Whitworth with its park setting, bringing light, air and fresh ideas into its expanded space. It includes a new cafe – a glass box which seems to levitate among the trees of Whitworth Park.

At the front of the building, where the car park once spoiled the view, a new sculpture garden has been created, described by landscape artist Sarah Price as “Japanese Zen meets English meadow”. At the back, low evergreens trimmed into cloud forms nestle among ribbons of English meadow, cutting through to lead you out towards the park.

So close to Rusholme’s Curry Mile that there is a whiff of garam masala if the wind is blowing the right way, the Whitworth is beside one of Manchester’s most deprived areas. “Galleries that have collections like ours don’t usually reside in Moss Side, which is really where we are,” says Balshaw.

She sees the setting as “a brilliant opportunity”, pointing out that the Whitworth’s textile collection has already attracted crowds from Manchester’s newest communities. “We’ve seen terrific spikes in our audience when we have done Islamic textile displays, because it has really strong resonance for Rusholme,” she says

The Whitworth serves two purposes, says Balshaw. “I think it has a dual function. It holds an internationally important collection of both historic and modern art and that’s very significant in terms of drawing visitors to the city from outside the city and country as well as people who live here,” she says. “But it’s also the university’s art gallery. It’s a place where you can take risks. It’s always shown contemporary art, always collected contemporary art. It’s place where you can do quite adventurous exhibitions, where the mindset is very open to show things you wouldn’t see anywhere else.”

The Whitworth will reopen on Valentine’s Day with a show from Cornelia Parker, who has taken over one of the gallery’s airy new exhibition halls to produce The War Room, a piece made from rolls of red paper used to make Remembrance poppies, offcuts from the production process with ghostly negatives of the flowers .

She has also collaborated with Kostya Novoselov, one of two Manchester University scientists awarded the Nobel Prize for the discovery of graphene – the world’s thinnest and strongest material. For Parker’s work, Novoselov took microscopic samples of graphite from drawings in the Whitworth’s collection, as well as a pencil-written letter by Sir Ernest Rutherford, who split the atom in Manchester. He then made graphene from the samples, one of which Parker is making into a work to mark the opening of the gallery and exhibition.It is these collaborations which make Manchester such an exciting place to be in 2015, says Balshaw: “Cornelia could work anywhere in the world but she chose to do the show here because she got to work with Kostya Novoselov.”

Over the past five years the number of visitors to the Whitworth have doubled to 170,000. It’s largely thanks to Balshaw, who is also in charge of Manchester Art Gallery in the city centre. She has long been tipped as the first woman director of Tate. It’s a suggestion she finds flattering (“Who wouldn’t, in the art sector, want that kind of job?”) but she insists she has unfinished business in Manchester. “I feel like I have three jobs as it is. So for at least a little while that will be enough,” she says.

As well as running the city’s two municipal galleries, she has been appointed cultural attache by Sir Howard Bernstein, the council chief executive. She spent part of last year having very discreet conversations with the treasury as she sought to persuade George Osborne to commit serious money to building the artistic headquarters of his northern powerhouse plan. Osborne came through in the autumn statement, pledging £78m for The Factory, a brand new cultural centre on the old Granada Studios site in the city’s Castlefield district.

Balshaw says she has never had a career plan and sees exciting opportunities all over the world. “But at the moment,” she said, “if you look across the UK there’s nowhere more exciting than Manchester.”

In April, the £25m Home will open its doors , giving Manchester the largest multidisciplinary artistic hub outside of London. In July, the biennial International Festival will take over the city, featuring Alice in Wonderland the Musical by Damon Albarn, as well as a contemporary ballet which brings together DJ Jamie XX, Mancunian choreographer Wayne McGregor and the artist, Olafur Eliasson. There will also be a CGI show about the night sky fronted by Manchester University’s own Professor Brian Cox.

Just before Christmas Greater Manchester also became the first city region to sign a £1bn devolution deal with the government, guaranteeing more autonomy in return for electing a mayor .

Manchester has two great strengths, believes Balshaw: Long-term, strong and stable leadership (the occasionally criticised one-party Labour state) and a culture of collaboration. “Manchester is small enough that all of the cultural leaders in the city can get together for a breakfast meeting and say: ‘what are we going to do to make things better here?’”

That wouldn’t be possible in London, she says, where size dictates that projects are either “done sector by sector or little area by little area”. But, she says: “I think the really liberating and fantastic thing about Manchester in the past five years is that it’s not about competition with London any more. It’s just about being the best that Manchester can be and should be, which is qualitatively different to London.”
 
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Went to the opening of the Whitworth with the kids at the weekend Petrusha. Really is special now - you'll have to visit next time you're back in Manchester.
 
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DiscoSteve said:
Not that it will happen but I think capacity in Rail Seat area basically doubles does it not when standing - so the 6,250 seats would become 12,500 standing spaces - so theoretically that would take the capacity to over 60,000 with the South Stand done and about 75,000 with both ends done - and whilst we're in fantasy land because by my reckoning the Etihad is good for about 71,500 with the sides done, all-seater, we would get to about 84,000 - an irritating 500 or so short of our English record at Maine Road... ;-)

Thought this new Safe standing you didn't get Extra fans check this out <a class="postlink" href="http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-standing/what-does-safe-standing-look-like/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-st ... look-like/</a>
 
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somapop said:
Went to the opening of the Whitworth with the kids at the weekend Petrusha. Really is special now - you'll have to visit next time you're back in Manchester.

Cheers. Definitely will. Haven't been there for years so it'll be good to see how it's changed.
 
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Interesting reading about Borussia Dortmund Stadion - They found an Allied bomb under the centre circle.....................


However, as the Westfalenstadion failed to fulfill FIFA requirements for hosting semi-finals, it had to be enlarged a third and last time. Four new stands were built to fill the corners between the existing grandstands, raising the seating capacity for international games from 52,000 to 67,000. Additionally, the new corner elements provide seating and catering to VIP guests, increasing the total number of VIP seats to 5,000. In order to provide the new sections with an unblocked view of the field, the existing interior roof supports were removed and replaced by exterior pylons, which were painted yellow to suit the BVB colors. During the course of those renovations, construction workers found an undetonated 1,000–pound (450 kg) bomb dropped by an Allied bomber in World War II that was only about one metre below the halfway line on the pitch. Bomb disposal experts had to evacuate the stadium and surrounding neighbourhood in Dortmund, which as part of Germany's industrial centre was bombed heavily, before taking an hour to defuse the device.[13]

The Stadium now hosts up to 80,720 fans (standing and seated) for league matches, and 65,718 seated spectators for international games. For these, the characteristic Southern grandstand is re-equipped with seats to conform with FIFA regulations.
 
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Just a reminder how big the stand will look when finished. Compare the size of the new tier with the two bottom tiers already in place.

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