Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Centurions]

By other rugby and football events you mean like Magic weekend maybe football tournament games women’s and youth games ?

What's Magic Weekend?

 

[domalino]

It would cost vastly more than building a new stadium. The roof would have to be replaced completely. I am not sure if that can be accomplished given the fact that the roof is cable stayed.

It would take the best part of a year to complete such changes. Where the hell would the club play in the meantime? Old Trafford? Wembley? Both Arsenal and Spurs has to use Wembley although only for Champions League matches for the former.

Two options apart from a new Stadium remain:

1. Go for small incremental changes to the existing stadium such as adding a new third tier in the North Stand as the first step. But no nonsense about creating a single tier in the North as that would require closure for a long time.

2. Do nothing and control demand by raising prices. That is what Chelsea have been doing for the past 20 years plus.

The number of daft proposals that have appeared on here never cease to amaze me.

Is there actually space for a new stadium in the North Car park? Unless they knock down the British Taekwando building and the football and tennis centre I'm not sure a stadium the same size as the current one would fit, let alone a bigger one.

And are they still thinking of developing the gas holder?

 

[domalino]

What's Magic Weekend?

Magic Weekend is a Rugby League event where instead of playing games all round the country in front of a few thousand fans, they play a whole round of fixtures in 1 big stadium so loads fans attend.

So all 12 sides play over 2 days in the same stadium in front of a mixed crowd of 50,000.

Rugby Union has done it for a while as well. In Wales they have Judgement day, where they have 2 derbies back to back in the Millenium, and in the premiership they do something similar in Twickenham once a year.

 

[citizen_maine]

Magic Weekend is a Rugby League event where instead of playing games all round the country in front of a few thousand fans, they play a whole round of fixtures in 1 big stadium so loads fans attend.

So all 12 sides play over 2 days in the same stadium in front of a mixed crowd of 50,000.

and then presumably lay a new pitch afterwards?

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Plans have already been drawn up several years back for the Etihad to be upgraded. 1. Extended South Stand. 2. Extended North Stand. 3. Remove the Cornets of both the South and North Stand (Both designed to be removed) and create extra seating in all four corners and replace roof and flow in line to both East and Wes Stand 4. Raise both the the East and West Stand by increasing both with additional 3000 seats. 5. Replace and fit complete new roof. 6. Replace and redesign the cladding on the outside of stadium to create more concourse space. The plans were posted on this link with time scale of about 10/15 years .Think capacity was around 72k when completed. You can take time scale as an estimate depending on continued success and extra demand. Covid will have had a minor effect as well but as far as I'm aware the idea will be to start the North Stand once the Co-op arena is finished due to the extra requirements of removing both the City Store and City Sq for the redevelopment.

This makes a lot of sense. I am sure they will look to link up the stadium with the arena in some way which incorporates City Square etc. Perhaps some sort of box park set-up which could be in use seven days a week for football fans, boxing fans, music fans etc etc. They will want to sell shared corporate packages and sponsorships. This might also be the right time to create a hotel on the site. It looks like a licence to print money which can only benefit the future of our club.
This joint sports/leisure business model is at the heart of what CFG is trying to replicate across the world. We are leaving our commercial rivals behind. That's why they are so bitter.

 

[domalino]

and then presumably lay a new pitch afterwards?

I don't think it's that bad.

Newcastle don't play on the pitch for 2 weeks after the planned Magic Weekend in September, and are only scheduled to play 1 game in the 6 weeks afterwards, so maybe that's enough time for it to recover.

Funnily enough the 1 game they have is Leeds, so I imagine Bielsa will go ballistic if it's all dug up and patched with sand.

 

[Centurions]

Is there actually space for a new stadium in the North Car park? Unless they knock down the British Taekwando building and the football and tennis centre I'm not sure a stadium the same size as the current one would fit, let alone a bigger one.

And are they still thinking of developing the gas holder?

The Co-Op Live building is going in next to the other centres anyway so they're going nowhere. There looks to be enough room if we own or can get rid of the gas holder?

 

[Gordyola]

Plans have already been drawn up several years back for the Etihad to be upgraded. 1. Extended South Stand. 2. Extended North Stand. 3. Remove the Cornets of both the South and North Stand (Both designed to be removed) and create extra seating in all four corners and replace roof and flow in line to both East and Wes Stand 4. Raise both the the East and West Stand by increasing both with additional 3000 seats. 5. Replace and fit complete new roof. 6. Replace and redesign the cladding on the outside of stadium to create more concourse space. The plans were posted on this link with time scale of about 10/15 years .Think capacity was around 72k when completed. You can take time scale as an estimate depending on continued success and extra demand. Covid will have had a minor effect as well but as far as I'm aware the idea will be to start the North Stand once the Co-op arena is finished due to the extra requirements of removing both the City Store and City Sq for the redevelopment.

Replace the roof HOW? yes it’s possible but the roof is a mono-structure How long do you think it would take to remove it and put a new one in What would be the design of the new one considering the foundations of the stands will not support a convention cantilever then there’s the cost
The south stand extension cost more than the whole stadium it doesn’t make economic sense The stadium was built with a small budget looks fantastic and was a very clever design to also to use it for the games then finish it by off It was never designed to house a WC football club like we are now Would make much more sense to build a brand new one on the car park and yes there is enough space

 

[blueparrot]

Replace the roof HOW? yes it’s possible but the roof is a mono-structure How long do you think it would take to remove it and put a new one in What would be the design of the new one considering the foundations of the stands will not support a convention cantilever then there’s the cost
The south stand extension cost more than the whole stadium it doesn’t make economic sense The stadium was built with a small budget looks fantastic and was a very clever design to also to use it for the games then finish it by off It was never designed to house a WC football club like we are now Would make much more sense to build a brand new one on the car park and yes there is enough space

Doesn’t the south stand have a new roof suspended by cables? And the old roof is gon. I thought the cable net of the old roof was still in place but if they replaced all the roofs same as the south they could then remove the old cable net.

 

[worsleyweb]

Replace the roof HOW? yes it’s possible but the roof is a mono-structure How long do you think it would take to remove it and put a new one in What would be the design of the new one considering the foundations of the stands will not support a convention cantilever then there’s the cost
The south stand extension cost more than the whole stadium it doesn’t make economic sense The stadium was built with a small budget looks fantastic and was a very clever design to also to use it for the games then finish it by off It was never designed to house a WC football club like we are now Would make much more sense to build a brand new one on the car park and yes there is enough space

stadium cost 90 million. Extension cost 60 fifteen years later. So it don’t cost more. Also not enough space on north car park.