Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Maly Wilson said:
Cheers for posting that.....interesting read
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The medium to long term plans from the new HS2 station up to the CFA are extraordinary & transformational for an area that was the 'work shop of Manchester' and suffered such poverty & under investment for almost a 100 years.

CITY will be the catalyst,and be at the centre of New Manchester & will be a huge beneficiary of a young,proffesional population.
 
CrownPointBlue said:
The medium to long term plans from the new HS2 station up to the CFA are extraordinary & transformational for an area that was the 'work shop of Manchester' and suffered such poverty & under investment for almost a 100 years.

CITY will be the catalyst,and be at the centre of New Manchester & will be a huge beneficiary of a young,proffesional population.
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Good times ahead for the club & the city on a whole. Making east Manchester a leading hub for sporting, educational & medical/health will benefit the whole of the north west and should drive shit loads of investment.....hopefully making up for the last 100 years of lack of investment
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
Sorry if posted (the pdf seems to be dated Feb 17) but I got a letter through the post today with a link to this where it's got a detailed pdf if anyone wants to look:

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/downloads/download/6702/eastlands_regeneration_framework
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As you say this was from February and at the time was going out for consultation, anyone know how long these take from consultation to actual planning apps going in. ? Wondering this because I'd have thought if the North stand was going to get extended it would be easier to get that done before or at least at the same time as building work at that end of the stadium.
 
Slightly off topic, but this gives a snap shot of why Manchester is currently booming. Which will no doubt spill over into the redevelopment of the Collar site, the Etihad Campus and the areas in-between the city centre and the stadium.

Skyscrapers, towers and talls all onsite/under construction ATM in Manchester. (may have missed some?)

Owen Street X 4(tallest of the 4 towers is 64 stories - 200.5 metres)
Water Street
Wilburn Basin
Exchange Court
Angel Gardens
Axis
Oxygen
X1 Mediacity
X1 the Gateway
Port Street
M-One Central
The Lightbox
Erie Basin
M/CR New Square
The Hallmark
Eastbank
The Slate Yard

20! Yes 20!

Not to mention too many midrise and small apartments under construction to list.

Middlewood Locks
Chapel Wharf
Adelphi Wharf
Clipper Quays
Etc

And numerous other proposals/developments which are going to start this year.
St John's.
2-4 Chester Road.
Etc.

Bar London, Manchester is seeing the most investment and construction of any of the regional cities. That goes for the major cities, even capital's, across Europe.

Sure Ric won't mind. Not diverting traffic.

Manchester Construction Projects: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=969

Manchester Metro Area: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=335
 
Executive meeting
  • Wednesday, 28 June 2017



Item 12 - Progress of the Residential Growth Action Plan (222.24 KB, PDF)

In the other direction, we will expect to see detailed plans brought forward for


the regeneration of the Central Retail Park and the Great Ancoats Street area.

Officers remain engaged with the owners of the retail park and have worked

with them to prepare a new framework for the site. A report and draft

framework for the Central Retail Park appears elsewhere on this agenda. The

delivery of the regeneration and improvement of these areas is key to

successfully integrating Ancoats and New Islington into the fabric of the city

centre.

6.10 Looking beyond the Ancoats and New Islington neighbourhoods; the wider

Eastern Gateway areas of Holt Town, the Lower Medlock Valley and areas

adjacent to the Etihad Campus are considered key growth areas in terms of

future residential development. The strategic interventions made by the City

Council over this Action Plan period will result in a solid development platform

being established similar to that which can evidenced in Ancoats and New

Islington.

6.11 A refreshed draft Eastlands Regeneration Framework was presented to the

Executive on 8 March 2017 which, subject to consultation, will be adopted in

late summer 2017. This refreshed framework incorporates the Holt Town and

Lower Medlock Valley areas and will supersede earlier frameworks for these

areas. The Council will focus on the acquisition of key sites in and around the

Ashton Canal Corridor and the wider Holt Town area in order to facilitate

development. Where development continues to be constrained the Council will

also be seeking to utilise CPO powers in this area.

6.12 Over the course of the 5-year duration of this Action Plan the Strategic

Development Directorate will be working closely with colleagues at

Manchester Life to make preparations for phase 2 of the delivery programme

to ensure that momentum is maintained and planned accordingly. Priority

activities will include further acquisitions, disposals, and infrastructure

planning. http://www.manchester.gov.uk/meetings/meeting/2989/executive
 
It's progressing.

Item 10 - Manchester Metropolitan University Estate Strategy 2017 (7.24 MB, PDF)

With regard to the proposal for a new Manchester Sport Institute
there has been an ongoing dialogue with the University to establish a robust
business case for the Etihad Stadium to act as a potential location for the
Manchester Sport Institute to provide the world class Higher Education offer to deliver sports related undergraduate and postgraduate courses as set out within the draft Eastlands Regeneration Framework which is currently being consulted upon.

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JRB do you know if there are any cladding issues regarding the towers going up in Manchester? Do modern buildings use the same materials implicated in London?

I have noticed a lot of buildings going up in Manchester at the moment. I live in St Johns gardens so very aware of it at the moment. Surrounded on 3 sides by big developments but tbh I like all 3 (Spinningfields, St Johns and a little futher away at Owen St?). I heard Gary Neville's plans had a setback though.
 
Marvin said:
JRB do you know if there are any cladding issues regarding the towers going up in Manchester? Do modern buildings use the same materials implicated in London?

I have noticed a lot of buildings going up in Manchester at the moment. I live in St Johns gardens so very aware of it at the moment. Surrounded on 3 sides by big developments but tbh I like all 3 (Spinningfields, St Johns and a little futher away at Owen St?). I heard Gary Neville's plans had a setback though.
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Like all towns and cities across the UK the 10 councils of Gtr Manchester are checking the cladding on their tower stock. So are property developers.

Salford is of concern. Especially the group of towers near Salford Sopping City, etc. (MEN article) They have all recently been reclad. So have many old residential towers across Gtr Manchester.

The new towers should be OK. Most have glass and brick exteriors. Those that have exterior block or panel cladding will be checked. Worsley will confirm this. Most if not all of the new towers and large apartment blocks have sprinkler systems, easy access fire escape routes and proper fire doors, etc.

Yes, Make Architects have been replaced by Stephen Hodder Architects. Neville has bowed to public pressure. Complete redesign of the proposal. Thankfully.
 
I was chatting to someone today who told me that the plan is to turn Eastlands into the focal point of Team GB
Apparently he's seen the plans that is to build TWO Olympic size (50metre) swimming pools where the gas towers are

To put in perspective of how unusual a 50m pool is, there are only two in GM at the moment, Manchester and Stockport
The next closest is Liverpool
 
dickie davies said:
I was chatting to someone today who told me that the plan is to turn Eastlands into the focal point of Team GB
Apparently he's seen the plans that is to build TWO Olympic size (50metre) swimming pools where the gas towers are

To put in perspective of how unusual a 50m pool is, there are only two in GM at the moment, Manchester and Stockport
The next closest is Liverpool
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The Aquatic centre has two 50m pools. One is subterranean.
 
dickie davies said:
I was chatting to someone today who told me that the plan is to turn Eastlands into the focal point of Team GB
Apparently he's seen the plans that is to build TWO Olympic size (50metre) swimming pools where the gas towers are

To put in perspective of how unusual a 50m pool is, there are only two in GM at the moment, Manchester and Stockport
The next closest is Liverpool
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That's pretty interesting...wonder (if this comes to fruition) what will happen to the Aquatic centre (it's a 50 metre pool, with a 50m training pool below, because COMAST and the Paralympic team train there - those teams would surely move to a new facility). That whole area (around the Aquatic Centre) is being redeveloped on a large scale (Uni/MMU), but I'd hate to see that go - it's a wonderful facility.

This is currently being built next to the MAC:

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How recent are those plans?

I'd still like to see something like a tennis centre built (would one fit in now?). Irks me somewhat to see tennis broadcast live from London this week (Queens) for it to be broadcast once again from London in a couple of weeks (Wimbledon).
 
petrusha said:
Interesting. Some of the matters in this document have been discussed in the Manchester Evening News before but I haven't seen the document itself. It's expressed to be a draft for consultation so if they're now sending out letters about it, presumably the public consultation has started.

These types of documents are always aspirational and short on detail, and inevitably not everything in them comes to pass. Nonetheless, the Campus, the Beswick Hub and the sixth-form college from previous versions of the Eastlands Regeneration Framework have become a reality. Discussions have been ongoing with MMU and other parties for several years about the possibility of some kind of sports university at the Campus, so I suspect this is already well past appealing to people to consider something. I believe they'll have quite a definite idea of the facility they want to create and people lined up to help create it. Of course, making it happen is still another matter and could involve substantial challenges.

What's clear is that they see the educational development as key to stimulating further development on the collar site and possibly the north car parks. Any announcement about the initial stage of the latter would seem unlikely to precede the announcement of the university, but perhaps some new sports and commercial facilities (an arena and conferencing space, perhaps) might be built concurrently with the educational facility.

I see that they haven't completely rowed back on the 'leisure and tourism destination' aspiration. There's a reference to "successful destination leisure and tourism attractions" that "internationally distinctive in content and scale". Notably less effusive language, however. The prospect of operation round the clock, also associated with attractions in previous documents, also gets a mention here.

The prospect of relocating the athletics arena and other sports facilities to make way for commercial development has been dropped from proposals made in previous documents. And while there's a mention of a hope to attract sports governing bodies to Manchester, the idea of a 'House of Sport' building at the Beswick Hub to house them doesn't seem to be referred to (I've only scan read it, though, so maybe I missed something).

Parking is going to be a major challenge. I see they say they hope to get more people using Metrolink, and that presumably includes the mooted new tram-train line from Marple, which would stop at Ashburys and a new Beswick stop before heading to the stop at Piccadilly station. However, the conversion of heavy rail for tram-trains in the UK is currently subject to a trial in South Yorkshire that was supposed to start ages ago and seems to have been delayed time after time (not sure what the latest status is). So it's going to take quite a while before we'll have any new Marple trams coming this way.
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Eh up Petrusha. Good to see you back.
This thread went really quiet and I guess plans are constantly being reviewed/revised, but it seems there's a lot brewing in the background.
I thought this development would start first then we'd see a knock on effect in Manchester itself...but the scale of development in the city is incredible (reports suggesting they've 'ran out of builders' and are importing from other regions) suggesting the other way round.
 
somapop said:
That's pretty interesting...wonder (if this comes to fruition) what will happen to the Aquatic centre (it's a 50 metre pool, with a 50m training pool below, because COMAST and the Paralympic team train there - those teams would surely move to a new facility). That whole area (around the Aquatic Centre) is being redeveloped on a large scale (Uni/MMU), but I'd hate to see that go - it's a wonderful facility.

This is currently being built next to the MAC:

800_aerialview.jpg


How recent are those plans?

I'd still like to see something like a tennis centre built (would one fit in now?). Irks me somewhat to see tennis broadcast live from London this week (Queens) for it to be broadcast once again from London in a couple of weeks (Wimbledon).
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The aquatics centre is a community facility that's Council run, so it would still be utilised. And when that was built the Council closed three or four other pools
The council has a responsibility to provide water space for the general public
If the paralympic team moved out, the pool would lose some income, but it would still have to be operational
 
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