Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

ManCityX said:
Sir Howard Bernstein has taken a development-focused advisory role at the parent company of Manchester City Football Club, Property Weekcan reveal.



The former Manchester City Council chief executive has joined City Football Group as a strategic development advisor, with a mandate to support the next phase of community, commercial and development initiatives in and around the Etihad Campus.

As part of his advisory role, Sir Howard will be a member of the board of Eastlands Strategic Development Company, the joint venture between Manchester City Council and CFG parent company, the Abu Dhabi United Group (ADUG).

Commenting on the appointment, Marty Edelman, City Football Group board member, said: “We are deeply honoured that Sir Howard has accepted this role as we progress ambitious plans to advance the Campus and surrounding areas. Sir Howard’s retirement from Manchester City Council earlier this year meant that we could have potentially lost his invaluable two decades of experience in rejuvenating East Manchester. We are delighted that he will take an active role in the continued revitalisation of the area through the further evolution of the Etihad Campus.”

While at Manchester City Council, Sir Howard was a driving force for Sports City and the 2002 Commonwealth Games which then became the Etihad Campus following the Abu Dhabi United Group’s acquisition of Manchester City Football Club in 2008.

The subsequent partnership between the council and ADUG led to more than £400m of investment, resulting in the 80-acre City Football Academy and an expanded stadium.
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Superb appointment. Poacher turned gamekeeper.
 
Watched the Madrid derby last night and very impressed by Atletico's new stadium which is another ground better than ours. The fact is that soon we will be well down the pecking order when it comes to stadia both in capacity and design.
We have built a superb training facility, one of the world's best. We have acquired some world class players. The final piece in the jigsaw HAS to be a significantly bigger and better stadium. If we build, say an 80,000 capacity stadium now (not in ten years or whatever) then this would be a show of intent by the club to dominate World football for generations to come.
Can we not just ask the club outright what's going on?
 
At the Cityzens event yesterday from the Legends lounge you can do nothing but be impressed by our stadium. The future expansion of the North stand will see a very imposing and impressive ground. For me the final piece of the jigsaw is a designated home end, accessible and good value pricing and no end of noise.
 
Wilmslow Road said:
Bars, Restaurants around the ground.
Rammed on match days drinking out of plastic pots, no thanks.
City Centre 20 mins walk away with first class establishments.
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If there was more of them they'd be less rammed and some with proper pints.
 
think at the ground is good but the walk up is dull bars cafes and restaurants need more than once a week customers we need other reasons to take that walk, an ice ring driving range and ski slope may be the answer with our better transport links but we definitely need a supporters club a museum would not go down badly
 
After looking at the list below, I think a museum would be the best to pull in visitors but not to engage and make people come to the football. Instead it needs to be a leisure destination, take a film in, bowl, eat, laser tag, trampoline, stay in a great hotel etc. I also wonder how a cinema built under a new expanded roof could work in our favour? At the moment, you can go and watch Leicester away at the Legends lounge. Imagine, if a cinema screen showed all the 3pm ko's at the Etihad?! I can dream

The 20 most popular UK attractions
  1. British Museum - 6.42m
  2. National Gallery - 6.26m
  3. Tate Modern - 5.84m
  4. Natural History Museum - 4.62m
  5. Southbank Centre - 3.9m
  6. Somerset House - 3.44m
  7. Science Museum - 3.24m
  8. V&A Museum - 3.02m
  9. Tower of London - 2.74m
  10. Royal Museums Greenwich - 2.45m
  11. National Portrait Gallery - 1.95m
  12. Chester Zoo - 1.9m
  13. Kew Gardens - 1.83m
  14. Westminster Abbey - 1.82m
  15. National Museum of Scotland - 1.81m
  16. Edinburgh Castle - 1.78m
  17. Royal Albert Hall - 1.66m
  18. Scottish National Gallery - 1.54m
  19. St Paul’s Cathedral - 1.52m
  20. British Library - 1.5m
 
Manchester1894 said:
After looking at the list below, I think a museum would be the best to pull in visitors but not to engage and make people come to the football. Instead it needs to be a leisure destination, take a film in, bowl, eat, laser tag, trampoline, stay in a great hotel etc. I also wonder how a cinema built under a new expanded roof could work in our favour? At the moment, you can go and watch Leicester away at the Legends lounge. Imagine, if a cinema screen showed all the 3pm ko's at the Etihad?! I can dream

The 20 most popular UK attractions
  1. British Museum - 6.42m
  2. National Gallery - 6.26m
  3. Tate Modern - 5.84m
  4. Natural History Museum - 4.62m
  5. Southbank Centre - 3.9m
  6. Somerset House - 3.44m
  7. Science Museum - 3.24m
  8. V&A Museum - 3.02m
  9. Tower of London - 2.74m
  10. Royal Museums Greenwich - 2.45m
  11. National Portrait Gallery - 1.95m
  12. Chester Zoo - 1.9m
  13. Kew Gardens - 1.83m
  14. Westminster Abbey - 1.82m
  15. National Museum of Scotland - 1.81m
  16. Edinburgh Castle - 1.78m
  17. Royal Albert Hall - 1.66m
  18. Scottish National Gallery - 1.54m
  19. St Paul’s Cathedral - 1.52m
  20. British Library - 1.5m
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Trouble is the National Football Museum never seems that busy so a whole area with one just for us as a centre piece I don't think would be that busy.
 
JOGAMIGMOG said:
Watched the Madrid derby last night and very impressed by Atletico's new stadium which is another ground better than ours. The fact is that soon we will be well down the pecking order when it comes to stadia both in capacity and design.
We have built a superb training facility, one of the world's best. We have acquired some world class players. The final piece in the jigsaw HAS to be a significantly bigger and better stadium. If we build, say an 80,000 capacity stadium now (not in ten years or whatever) then this would be a show of intent by the club to dominate World football for generations to come.
Can we not just ask the club outright what's going on?
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Don't forget to brush your teeth before bed son.
 
Manchester1894 said:
Imagine, if a cinema screen showed all the 3pm ko's at the Etihad?! I can dream
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Impossible to retrofit , but a screen like that would be nice.

There’s loads of bowling cinema etc complexes in and around Manchester already (Stockport shortly gains RedRock) I think a bit more USP is required.
 
jrb said:
New update.
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Cheers. A PDF of 83 pages - quite a lot to go at. Have a lull at work (though it could be punctuated at any moment) so going to have a quick look through now.

First little nugget - numbered point 1.7 on page 6:

Since the March 2017 Executive work has also progressed with the Manchester Metropolitan University to develop a robust business case for the University to relocate and deliver its sports related undergraduate and postgraduate courses on the Etihad Campus. The University have now concluded that work and agreed to such a move. This report sets out those proposals in more detail.​
 
jrb said:
New update.

Click on the link.

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Reports

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/24358/4_-_eastlands_development_framework
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Thanks for posting. Is there more detail than the last document of this type? I can see from the download the location of the proposed sports university campus but is that new? I guess once the University campus is there it will bring the benefit of 24 x 7 footfall to the campus which will ensure the viability of the bars, hotels etc. In your estimation @jrb how many years is this away from fruition?
 
The document reports the results of the consultation earlier in the year, which was completed in August, and details how the plans have been taken forward since then. I had a quick read through based on which I'd highlight the following, focusing on the Etihad Campus alone:

1. The Campus is going to be expanded to the west of the current boundary between Ashton New Road and the River Medloock, i.e. the area currently in and around the Edwin Road Industrial estate. The Council has commenced discussions with landowners and businesses in this area with a view to acquiring their interests. Such discussions will seek to encourage affected businesses to relocate within east Manchester.

2. The above land together with land on the Campus as currently constituted, centred to the north and south of the Ashton Canal to the north west of the Etihad Stadium, adjacent to the existing Regional Athletics Centre, the indoor training centre, the Squash Centre and the Tennis Centre, will house a Sport and Innovation zone. This will be anchored by the proposed Manchester Metropolitan University Sports Institute, a higher education institution that "will be a global leading facility that promotes leading research, development and innovation in the world of sport, attracting the best academic, graduate and post-graduate talent."

3. The new part of the Sport and Innovation zone will house higher education and support facilities, including offices, labs, lecture theatres and training space and accommodation for over 3,000 students.

4. However, we're still at a stage where there's a need for a continuation of "detailed discussions with Manchester Metropolitan University about the development of a robust business case for the establishment of a world class facility at the Etihad Campus", so it'll be a little while, I guess, before any more specific plans come forward.

5. The land to the east of the Etihad Stadium from the Bradford Road Gasholder in the north and southwards to Ashton New Road and the land to the west of the stadium between the athletics arena and Ashton New Road is now referred to as the Etihad Campus Commercial Zone (the search function identified one usage of the term 'collar site' in the entire document). The idea is to build a "sports, leisure and recreation economic cluster" by way of creating "a significant new mixed-use quarter that builds on the sports and higher education ambitions for the area". There's specific mention of "hotels, retail (including specialist sports retail), food and beverage and associated car parking", with a suggestion that the latter may be multi-storey in nature.

6. The site "could accommodate circa 2 million square feet of new development" and aims to be a "destination where residents and visitors will come to spend their time on leisure related activities".

7. The 'Ambitions' section of the document does refer to "destination leisure and tourism attractions [note - plural] at the Etihad Campus". Moreover, the same bold language as before continues to be used, suggesting that there a big hopes for the site - eventually! We have references to: "internationally distinctive in content and scale"; "an exciting experience that caters for all, including families, underpinned by a unique vision"; "mix of world-class content that will animate the site throughout the day and night-time, year-round"; and "the Etihad Campus’ role as a destination of national and international significance".

So it's not new, exactly, but there's a lot more detail than previously about the university. That's obviously intended to be the driver of further commercial development - having more and more people on site every day. I was very excited by versions of the Eastlands Regeneration Framework produced years ago, but this maybe sounds a little more sustainable and anchored in reality.

Anyone else is welcome to add to the above. This is just what struck me but it was a scan read and I could have missed plenty or failed to put things in the appropriate context.
 
petrusha said:
The document reports the results of the consultation earlier in the year, which was completed in August, and details how the plans have been taken forward since then. I had a quick read through based on which I'd highlight the following, focusing on the Etihad Campus alone:

1. The Campus is going to be expanded to the west of the current boundary between Ashton New Road and the River Medloock, i.e. the area currently in and around the Edwin Road Industrial estate. The Council has commenced discussions with landowners and businesses in this area with a view to acquiring their interests. Such discussions will seek to encourage affected businesses to relocate within east Manchester.

2. The above land together with land on the Campus as currently constituted, centred to the north and south of the Ashton Canal to the north west of the Etihad Stadium, adjacent to the existing Regional Athletics Centre, the indoor training centre, the Squash Centre and the Tennis Centre, will house a Sport and Innovation zone. This will be anchored by the proposed Manchester Metropolitan University Sports Institute, a higher education institution that "will be a global leading facility that promotes leading research, development and innovation in the world of sport, attracting the best academic, graduate and post-graduate talent."

3. The new part of the Sport and Innovation zone will house higher education and support facilities, including offices, labs, lecture theatres and training space and accommodation for over 3,000 students.

4. However, we're still at a stage where there's a need for a continuation of "detailed discussions with Manchester Metropolitan University about the development of a robust business case for the establishment of a world class facility at the Etihad Campus", so it'll be a little while, I guess, before any more specific plans come forward.

5. The land to the east of the Etihad Stadium from the Bradford Road Gasholder in the north and southwards to Ashton New Road and the land to the west of the stadium between the athletics arena and Ashton New Road is now referred to as the Etihad Campus Commercial Zone (the search function identified one usage of the term 'collar site' in the entire document). The idea is to build a "sports, leisure and recreation economic cluster" by way of creating "a significant new mixed-use quarter that builds on the sports and higher education ambitions for the area". There's specific mention of "hotels, retail (including specialist sports retail), food and beverage and associated car parking", with a suggestion that the latter may be multi-storey in nature.

6. The site "could accommodate circa 2 million square feet of new development" and aims to be a "destination where residents and visitors will come to spend their time on leisure related activities".

7. The 'Ambitions' section of the document does refer to "destination leisure and tourism attractions [note - plural] at the Etihad Campus". Moreover, the same bold language as before continues to be used, suggesting that there a big hopes for the site - eventually! We have references to: "internationally distinctive in content and scale"; "an exciting experience that caters for all, including families, underpinned by a unique vision"; "mix of world-class content that will animate the site throughout the day and night-time, year-round"; and "the Etihad Campus’ role as a destination of national and international significance".

So it's not new, exactly, but there's a lot more detail than previously about the university. That's obviously intended to be the driver of further commercial development - having more and more people on site every day. I was very excited by versions of the Eastlands Regeneration Framework produced years ago, but this maybe sounds a little more sustainable and anchored in reality.

Anyone else is welcome to add to the above. This is just what struck me but it was a scan read and I could have missed plenty or failed to put things in the appropriate context.
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Great news, many thanks but Metrolink will still be shit.
 
petrusha said:
The document reports the results of the consultation earlier in the year, which was completed in August, and details how the plans have been taken forward since then. I had a quick read through based on which I'd highlight the following, focusing on the Etihad Campus alone:

1. The Campus is going to be expanded to the west of the current boundary between Ashton New Road and the River Medloock, i.e. the area currently in and around the Edwin Road Industrial estate. The Council has commenced discussions with landowners and businesses in this area with a view to acquiring their interests. Such discussions will seek to encourage affected businesses to relocate within east Manchester.

2. The above land together with land on the Campus as currently constituted, centred to the north and south of the Ashton Canal to the north west of the Etihad Stadium, adjacent to the existing Regional Athletics Centre, the indoor training centre, the Squash Centre and the Tennis Centre, will house a Sport and Innovation zone. This will be anchored by the proposed Manchester Metropolitan University Sports Institute, a higher education institution that "will be a global leading facility that promotes leading research, development and innovation in the world of sport, attracting the best academic, graduate and post-graduate talent."

3. The new part of the Sport and Innovation zone will house higher education and support facilities, including offices, labs, lecture theatres and training space and accommodation for over 3,000 students.

4. However, we're still at a stage where there's a need for a continuation of "detailed discussions with Manchester Metropolitan University about the development of a robust business case for the establishment of a world class facility at the Etihad Campus", so it'll be a little while, I guess, before any more specific plans come forward.

5. The land to the east of the Etihad Stadium from the Bradford Road Gasholder in the north and southwards to Ashton New Road and the land to the west of the stadium between the athletics arena and Ashton New Road is now referred to as the Etihad Campus Commercial Zone (the search function identified one usage of the term 'collar site' in the entire document). The idea is to build a "sports, leisure and recreation economic cluster" by way of creating "a significant new mixed-use quarter that builds on the sports and higher education ambitions for the area". There's specific mention of "hotels, retail (including specialist sports retail), food and beverage and associated car parking", with a suggestion that the latter may be multi-storey in nature.

6. The site "could accommodate circa 2 million square feet of new development" and aims to be a "destination where residents and visitors will come to spend their time on leisure related activities".

7. The 'Ambitions' section of the document does refer to "destination leisure and tourism attractions [note - plural] at the Etihad Campus". Moreover, the same bold language as before continues to be used, suggesting that there a big hopes for the site - eventually! We have references to: "internationally distinctive in content and scale"; "an exciting experience that caters for all, including families, underpinned by a unique vision"; "mix of world-class content that will animate the site throughout the day and night-time, year-round"; and "the Etihad Campus’ role as a destination of national and international significance".

So it's not new, exactly, but there's a lot more detail than previously about the university. That's obviously intended to be the driver of further commercial development - having more and more people on site every day. I was very excited by versions of the Eastlands Regeneration Framework produced years ago, but this maybe sounds a little more sustainable and anchored in reality.

Anyone else is welcome to add to the above. This is just what struck me but it was a scan read and I could have missed plenty or failed to put things in the appropriate context.
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Good summary thanks. I guess the next stage will be the business case for the University sports institute. That seems to be the key initiative that will generate the more commercial investment. It sounds like a 5 year period to get this on the ground.
 
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