Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

I park at Great Ancoats Retail Park when i go to get my hair cut - you get 2 hours. How selfish
 
When discussing transport links and ways of easing congestion in the past. I was poo posed by neville neville for my suggestion of converting the 2 gas holders into multi storey car parks. He reckoned you would be well dizzy when you reached the bottom .....
My immediate thought was the exit helter-skelter at the arndale, but on reflection the up and down ramps could simply be standard, no need to have a bend at all.
These car parks could hold a substantial amount of cars. Would not change the sky line and would also be a boon for getting cars away after games. One exits straight out at the Briscoe lane/ Alan Turing Junction and the other on bradford road, both of which could be viewed as outside the current traffic corded to protect pedestrians, allowing the new car parks to empty immediately after final whistle, Not before...... Stay to the end,
This would free up the existing car parks to be used for the collar site dedevelopment.
Also train lines in vicinity could be modified to add huge amounts of extra public transport.... The existing line that passes the ground by the gas holders could have a station siding added with a platform long enough to match piccadillys longest platform and holding all the redundant rolling stock from the old football special days. Also the existing closed track that runs from the back of the abattoir to above the mayne garage near Stuart street power station could also be made operational and feed another long train into Victoria or at least the town centre. Having a siding built for the metrolink at these 2 stations ( no need for 2 train tracks) would also greatly increase transport numbers without causing too much disruption during building
All in all this could ease some of the pressure of the added spectators when the capacity is increased to match demand for the biggest football stadium in the world, ok that's me dreaming lol, but having enough capacity to break our own attendance record easily would be a start
 
dips66 said:
When discussing transport links and ways of easing congestion in the past. I was poo posed by neville neville for my suggestion of converting the 2 gas holders into multi storey car parks. He reckoned you would be well dizzy when you reached the bottom .....
My immediate thought was the exit helter-skelter at the arndale, but on reflection the up and down ramps could simply be standard, no need to have a bend at all.
These car parks could hold a substantial amount of cars. Would not change the sky line and would also be a boon for getting cars away after games. One exits straight out at the Briscoe lane/ Alan Turing Junction and the other on bradford road, both of which could be viewed as outside the current traffic corded to protect pedestrians, allowing the new car parks to empty immediately after final whistle, Not before...... Stay to the end,
This would free up the existing car parks to be used for the collar site dedevelopment.
Also train lines in vicinity could be modified to add huge amounts of extra public transport.... The existing line that passes the ground by the gas holders could have a station siding added with a platform long enough to match piccadillys longest platform and holding all the redundant rolling stock from the old football special days. Also the existing closed track that runs from the back of the abattoir to above the mayne garage near Stuart street power station could also be made operational and feed another long train into Victoria or at least the town centre. Having a siding built for the metrolink at these 2 stations ( no need for 2 train tracks) would also greatly increase transport numbers without causing too much disruption during building
All in all this could ease some of the pressure of the added spectators when the capacity is increased to match demand for the biggest football stadium in the world, ok that's me dreaming lol, but having enough capacity to break our own attendance record easily would be a start
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I'm sorry if I poopooed your gasholder carpark idea, partially in the interest of comedy, but after filling it with concrete & having to fit in the up & down ramps for cars, lifts etc, do you think the end result in car parking space & resulting metal cannister full of carbon monoxide, full of folks waiting to twist their way out onto the packed roads, would be worth the building effort ?
 
Neville Kneville said:
I'm sorry if I poopooed your gasholder carpark idea, partially in the interest of comedy, but after filling it with concrete & having to fit in the up & down ramps for cars, lifts etc, do you think the end result in car parking space & resulting metal cannister full of carbon monoxide, full of folks waiting to twist their way out onto the packed roads, would be worth the building effort ?
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https://www.dezeen.com/2017/11/09/s...rid-gasholder-bases-architecture-competition/
 
Don't know if this is of any significance, just read that the Hall and Rogers site on Ashton New Road and another site is going to be demolished. Its long term use is said to be "probably residential". But short term, it quotes 2018/19, to be used for Car Parking. Is the site big enough to free up Car Parking on the Collar Site?
 
mostonbluemark said:
Don't know if this is of any significance, just read that the Hall and Rogers site on Ashton New Road and another site is going to be demolished. Its long term use is said to be "probably residential". But short term, it quotes 2018/19, to be used for Car Parking. Is the site big enough to free up Car Parking on the Collar Site?
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It had /has planning permission for an Ice Dome .http://www.manchester.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/21113/item_16_-_the_manchester_ice_dome
 
Starts off about the Industry that was in east Manchester providing 70% of Manchester's Industrial jobs. In the 70's the loss of Industry from the area and then the land lying dormant through the late 70's into the 1980s.

Goes on to explain the vision of regeneration of East Manchester in the 1990's. The Velodrome was built for the second failed Olympic bid and then the rest of Sport City came with the Commonwealth games. Originally the Stadium was to be used by the FA to play FA Cup Semi Finals and England games etc. That fell through so City were approached to be permanent tenants.

After the take over in 2008 ADUG pledged three promises to Manchester.

1) Build a World Class Team
2) Support City's work in the Community
3) Form a partnership with the Council to regenerate East Manchester with World Class sports facilities, Community projects and housing.

Sports led regeneration is a phrase used.

Originally it was planned as a 20 year project but with the recession thats now a 30 year project.

Leisure facilities will be the last part of the project, Hotels, Casino, restaurants, Cinema's etc........they have to build the residential part first, and get young people through the University. They are aiming to replicate whats in Manchester City centre in "downtown" East Manchester.

Ancoats has been planned to be a residential area and commercial with new jobs etc. Housing in this area will a mix of family and for young people with affordable housing, both rental and to buy.

Lots of Companies inquiring about relocating to the EITHAD campus, from London and abroad including South Africa and USA.

The canals will be used to enhance the standard of life for people both living and working in the area.

Innovation in Tech will play a large part in the area, the word they use is "Embedded".

National sport entity's agreements are in place for them to come. A University Campus will be built in East Manchester.

ADUG is very loyal and will be very supportive of East Manchester, and they stress the long term vision.

They ask the question will there be a day when you'll look at whats been created and say it's finished....the answer it will "Be Down", "Organic" with growth out pacing the decay. There will always be a whats next!!

Thats it in a nutshell, well worth 42 minutes of watching!!
 
Thanks to fumble for posting that video and to Mr Ed for posting the summary. I finally got round to watching for myself last night. As someone who, based on the live tweeting of the event from MIPIM last month, dubbed it a damp squib, I must say that was a much more positive and uplifting presentation than it sounded from the fragments that made it onto Twitter on the day.
 
petrusha said:
Thanks to fumble for posting that video and to Mr Ed for posting the summary. I finally got round to watching for myself last night. As someone who, based on the live tweeting of the event from MIPIM last month, dubbed it a damp squib, I must say that was a much more positive and uplifting presentation than it sounded from the fragments that made it onto Twitter on the day.
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That was me. :-)

The damp squib remark was for the whole event.

As a rule there's always been CGI's, models, flythroughs, etc, along with presentations.

This year was just a talking shop.

Each to their own I suppose. But having followed Manchester MIPIM for many years, you get used to the above, and previously live feeds, etc.

I just thought it was an anti-climax, compared to previous Manchester MIPIM's.
 
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