Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Maly said:
Isn’t that exactly what happened with the chap who fronted the takeover? His name escapes me, but I think he was spouting we’d sign everyone & anyone we wanted? Wasn’t he quietly removed shortly after his comments?

So whilst I don’t disagree with the sentiments of your post, there wasn’t necessarily a script or guidance regarding Cook’s comments, unless you know otherwise?
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Don't be so naive.

If you think that ADUG would have allowed Garry Cook to speak on their behalf without approval and guidance, you really have no idea how big business works.

We're talking about multi billionaires making a multi million deal, not Peter Swales flogging a washing machine.

ADUG represents the acceptable face of Abu Dhabi. Everything they do is 'flying the flag' for Abu Dhabi. They would have known and fully approved everything Garry Cook told the media following the takeover.
 
Lavinda Past said:
Don't be so naive.

If you think that ADUG would have allowed Garry Cook to speak on their behalf without approval and guidance, you really have no idea how big business works.

We're talking about multi billionaires making a multi million deal, not Peter Swales flogging a washing machine.

ADUG represents the acceptable face of Abu Dhabi. Everything they do is 'flying the flag' for Abu Dhabi. They would have known and fully approved everything Garry Cook told the media following the takeover.
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I’m sure you didn’t mean to sound so condescending pal, but considering I work with a business with a £90m turnover, who are owned by an equity company worth $2b, I have a reasonable handle on certain areas of ‘big business

One being that the CEO of my company has carte Blanche to say & do what he wants without any input from the equity company he reports into, so whilst you believe what you say to be true, which you could well be, it certainly isn’t naive or beyond the realms of possibility believe that GC was given free reign to say whatever he wanted to say
 
worsleyweb said:
may lads got into rugby league and agreed they all say this is not football all the time when someone gets injured.
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The one thing I would take from rugby is referee’s stopping time, and the hooter! Our boys would take most games to a 100 mins keeping the ball looking for winner/equaliser, and it would put to bed all the manipulation from the likes of Tierney
 
Maly said:
I’m sure you didn’t mean to sound so condescending pal, but considering I work with a business with a £90m turnover, who are owned by an equity company worth $2b, I have a reasonable handle on certain areas of ‘big business

One being that the CEO of my company has carte Blanche to say & do what he wants without any input from the equity company he reports into, so whilst you believe what you say to be true, which you could well be, it certainly isn’t naive or beyond the realms of possibility believe that GC was given free reign to say whatever he wanted to say
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You keep telling yourself that.
 
Lavinda Past said:
It's a different world Colin.
You're more likely to see grown men nagging their kids to come to the game now.

We had few distractions when we were kids. We lived in poorly heated houses, didn't have a TV, and those who did only had two channels on a 12" screen. There was no football on other than cup finals, and watching Flash Gordon/The Lone Ranger at the local fleapit on a Saturday morning was the highlight of most weeks.
Kids have easy access to an almost infinite number of tech items, 60" TVs, wall to wall sports, films, games... use of most of which will be shared with parents.

Despite all the hype around it, actually attending a football match is nowhere near as attractive to children as playing computer games.

Having raised two sons over the last 30 years, my own experience is that only one of them still has any interest in watching football. Furthermore, very few of their old schoolfriends have any more than a passing interest in football.
My youngest lad has been a season card holder for years... at my expense. He couldn't afford one on his own money and has far more important things to spend on.
In effect, if I don't go to the games, he won't go either. When I stop, it's two seats up for grabs, as he'll most likely just watch games via TV and streams.

The thing is that kids grow out of interests quickly when something new appears. They're excited and overwhelmed when they first go to a match but that doesn't last for ever. They get fed up and distracted, no matter how much the parent tries to keep them on the game.

Kids get more mental stimulation nowadays. The excitement of a football match can't compete with fast moving computer games.

if I had a quid for every child I've seen playing on a mobile phone throughout matches, I'd be a Tunnel Club regular.
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Not just kids,

Was a woman sat in front of me, who hadn't looked at the pitch once.

was texting and playing games on her mobile all game,
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
Not just kids,

Was a woman sat in front of me, who hadn't looked at the pitch once.

was texting and playing games on her mobile all game,
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It was the same with mums and grans knitting City scarves in the Platt Lane end during matches in the 1960s...

Am I right @Eccles Blue ? ;-)

Ladies have always been better at multi tasking than us lads.
 
I know it's slightly off-topic, but re the conversation with empty seats... It's not a huge issue in the grand scheme of things, but if the club wanted to resolve that issue, there are more radical things they could try that might help.

Something I'd like to see is game by game seat allocation. What I mean by that is that seasoncard holders get a ticket to a specific block, not a seat. Their individual seat is assigned before each game. Fans in the lower tiers will be filled from the back forward, and in the upper tiers, from the front back. That leaves big blocks of empty seats open to match ticket holders who can then go with friends or family and have a better choice of where to sit at the game together.

It also means that when a season ticket holder can't go, they don't leave one isolated seat that's unlikely to sell. It's easier to bring a friend to a one-off game and sit with them.

For lower demand games, where the front of level 1 isn't going to sell out, we can use those rows to cover with our banners and flags - or, from a commercial perspective, you could use it as advertising.
 
Manchester33 said:
I know it's slightly off-topic, but re the conversation with empty seats... It's not a huge issue in the grand scheme of things, but if the club wanted to resolve that issue, there are more radical things they could try that might help.

Something I'd like to see is game by game seat allocation. What I mean by that is that seasoncard holders get a ticket to a specific block, not a seat. Their individual seat is assigned before each game. Fans in the lower tiers will be filled from the back forward, and in the upper tiers, from the front back. That leaves big blocks of empty seats open to match ticket holders who can then go with friends or family and have a better choice of where to sit at the game together.

It also means that when a season ticket holder can't go, they don't leave one isolated seat that's unlikely to sell. It's easier to bring a friend to a one-off game and sit with them.

For lower demand games, where the front of level 1 isn't going to sell out, we can use those rows to cover with our banners and flags - or, from a commercial perspective, you could use it as advertising.
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mention that to teh city matters team
 
Manchester33 said:
I know it's slightly off-topic, but re the conversation with empty seats... It's not a huge issue in the grand scheme of things, but if the club wanted to resolve that issue, there are more radical things they could try that might help.

Something I'd like to see is game by game seat allocation. What I mean by that is that seasoncard holders get a ticket to a specific block, not a seat. Their individual seat is assigned before each game. Fans in the lower tiers will be filled from the back forward, and in the upper tiers, from the front back. That leaves big blocks of empty seats open to match ticket holders who can then go with friends or family and have a better choice of where to sit at the game together.

It also means that when a season ticket holder can't go, they don't leave one isolated seat that's unlikely to sell. It's easier to bring a friend to a one-off game and sit with them.

For lower demand games, where the front of level 1 isn't going to sell out, we can use those rows to cover with our banners and flags - or, from a commercial perspective, you could use it as advertising.
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An interesting idea but will never happen, people with season tickets largely feel a sense of ownership of ‘their seat’ and also the community of people they sit around.
 
Manchester33 said:
I know it's slightly off-topic, but re the conversation with empty seats... It's not a huge issue in the grand scheme of things, but if the club wanted to resolve that issue, there are more radical things they could try that might help.

Something I'd like to see is game by game seat allocation. What I mean by that is that seasoncard holders get a ticket to a specific block, not a seat. Their individual seat is assigned before each game. Fans in the lower tiers will be filled from the back forward, and in the upper tiers, from the front back. That leaves big blocks of empty seats open to match ticket holders who can then go with friends or family and have a better choice of where to sit at the game together.

It also means that when a season ticket holder can't go, they don't leave one isolated seat that's unlikely to sell. It's easier to bring a friend to a one-off game and sit with them.

For lower demand games, where the front of level 1 isn't going to sell out, we can use those rows to cover with our banners and flags - or, from a commercial perspective, you could use it as advertising.
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What used to happen in the 60s and 70s was that some areas of Maine Road were just unallocated seats (like the Platt Lane End). You paid at the gate and sat where you wanted as the stand filled up. In the Maine Stand (prices were higher) and you got the same seat each week. I suspect that these days security reasons would prevent this happening but it allowed mates to sit together and to turn up on the day.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
What used to happen in the 60s and 70s was that some areas of Maine Road were just unallocated seats (like the Platt Lane End). You paid at the gate and sat where you wanted as the stand filled up. In the Maine Stand (prices were higher) and you got the same seat each week. I suspect that these days security reasons would prevent this happening but it allowed mates to sit together and to turn up on the day.
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Its funny, Mention The Platt Lane stand in the 1960s & all I can hear is.... SIT DOWN!
Happy days when the grass seemed much greener (even though most of it was mud in the winter)
 
LongsightM13 said:
An interesting idea but will never happen, people with season tickets largely feel a sense of ownership of ‘their seat’ and also the community of people they sit around.
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It doesn't have to be that idea, but my post is more to prove a point that there are concepts and things we could trial to resolve the issue. The problem at City is there's so much red tape to go through to trial anything that nothing ever gets done.

I agree it wouldn't happen at City because of disgruntled season card holders.
 
LongsightM13 said:
An interesting idea but will never happen, people with season tickets largely feel a sense of ownership of ‘their seat’ and also the community of people they sit around.
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This is part of the problem with the atmosphere at most all-seater stadia IMO.

People get used to, and settle in to, one seat and the group around them.

The best two atmospheres I've experienced at the new ground are Hamburg, where everyone was mixed up and Chelsea for the first game in the brand new SS3. The noise that day up there was incredible and everyone loved it, but it has never once been replicated. To me that's because everyone settled in and got comfortable.

I'd buy a SC that gave me a new spot every time as I like/prefer variety and although I get on with those around me in SS3, there's also the feeling of same old-same old. Whenever there's a cup game I try to reallocate, just for the change of scene.

To me, all Blues are my community. Not just the people I happen to sit near.
 
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