Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

dips66 said:
To me, adding a load of buses around the campus is a step backwards, especially when we have the (so called) more advanced tram system slap bang in the middle of it.
My suggestion would be to add a spur off the existing tram line as it veers off Ashton road just before the campus. Have the line going up past the Etihad rejoining the existing line at Asda.
Therefore given the most frequent trams are every ,6 mins, this would in effect double the tram capacity and have a tram leaving every 3 mins from the site.
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Nice idea but I don't think it would help because the trams would then have to sit waiting to get through the Piccadilly bottleneck.

At the moment it feels to me that we (Manchester) are a bit stuck waiting for HS2 to complete. Once the train approach into Piccadilly is finished, alongside the new tram stop layout at Piccadilly - which I don't think is designed yet - then they can move onto handling the Castlefield corridor (the trains that use platforms 14/15), other cross-city tram ideas (a tunnel is being considered) and train-tram solutions on the Glossop and Marple lines. If they can configure things to allow scheduled services, be it train or tram-train, on the track that runs beside the stadium we will have a much better infrastructure but they just can't do that at the moment because that line is being used for goods trains and relieving the pressure off the Castlefield corridor. It's going to happen eventually but we just have to be patient - very patient.

In the meantime, improving the walks to the tram stop at Central Park would be a good start as this line uses the second city crossing so people can change services away from Piccadilly. That's where I'd run shuttle buses to and from: Joe Mercer Way > Briscoe Lane > Ten Acres Lane and back.
 
Manchester33 said:
Agreed about the wait times. It's irritating even more so because the contributing factors seem so glaring and easy to fix.

You shouldn't have to wait 12 mins to get a tram from Picc Station TO the Etihad less than 90 mins before KO. There should have been a queuing system built for trams at the Etihad station so they could have 5 or 6 lined up waiting. Every single tram on the Etihad line on our match days should be a double rather than the single ones.
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Either the Metrolink system cannot accommodate more frequent Mets, or the people who run Metrolink have no idea that the current service on matchdays aren’t frequent or good enough.

I’ve noticed, pre-game, Mets to Victoria/Piccadilly/Bury/Rochdale/Oldham are emptying their passengers onto Cornbrook to wait for the Ashton Met to get to the Etihad, yet not everyone can even get onto the Ashton Met at Cornbrook when it finally comes because there are too many people trying to squeeze onto it. The order of Mets arriving at Cornbrook is still in the same order… Ashton/Victoria/Piccadilly/Bury/Rochdale/Oldham/Ashton… surely there dont need to be the same number of Mets from Altrincham/Airport/Didsbury going to Victoria/Piccadilly/Bury/Rochdale/Oldham while only the same small number of Mets go from Eccles to Ashton every 12 minutes?! Surely the frequency of Eccles to/from Ashton can increase for two hours before kick off and two hours after kick off?!

There shouldn’t be any single units travelling through the Etihad in the period of two hours before and after kick off. And they should be arriving and leaving every 6 minutes.

Yet I’ve seen single units, and even on the big screens in the ground (where they’ve started showing Met times at the end of games) they’re showing waiting times for the next Met as 12 or even 24 minutes. That’s not good enough!

The whole system needs looking at for the period required for matches.
 
dips66 said:
To me, adding a load of buses around the campus is a step backwards, especially when we have the (so called) more advanced tram system slap bang in the middle of it.
My suggestion would be to add a spur off the existing tram line as it veers off Ashton road just before the campus. Have the line going up past the Etihad rejoining the existing line at Asda.
Therefore given the most frequent trams are every ,6 mins, this would in effect double the tram capacity and have a tram leaving every 3 mins from the site.
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Metrolink have had years to sort a better service. From what I can see the service has gone way backwards on the last year or two. Single 200 capacity trams into town after a night game every 5 mins is no help whatsoeve. I agree massively upping the capacity of trams would be great with Spurs lines backed up with trams waiting. But for whatever reason, metrolink seems to have little interest in moving city fans.
 
Holcombe bloo said:
Metrolink have had years to sort a better service. From what I can see the service has gone way backwards on the last year or two. Single 200 capacity trams into town after a night game every 5 mins is no help whatsoeve. I agree massively upping the capacity of trams would be great with Spurs lines backed up with trams waiting. But for whatever reason, metrolink seems to have little interest in moving city fans.
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I assume they won't spend the money required for what 25 occasions a year, maybe the arena which will be used about 250 times a year will encourage that investment in infrastructure.
 
I’m sure the City & Etihad Stadium logos used to light up for night games on the South Stand exterior? Completely blacked out last night, is this due to some mad Uefa rule or are we in need of some lightbulbs again.
 
Citizen Green said:
I’m sure the City & Etihad Stadium logos used to light up for night games on the South Stand exterior? Completely blacked out last night, is this due to some mad Uefa rule or are we in need of some lightbulbs again.
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Think it’s because it says ‘Etihad’ and has to be blanked out due to UEFA sponsorship rules.
 
Citizen Green said:
I’m sure the City & Etihad Stadium logos used to light up for night games on the South Stand exterior? Completely blacked out last night, is this due to some mad Uefa rule or are we in need of some lightbulbs again.
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Probably UEFA rules as i noticed from being in the ground early last night that the Etihad written on the Family stand seats on level one was partially covered up by I assume blue coverings on the seats (I was in SS L3 so not sure). Whatever it was meant there was just random bits of white where Etihad usually is and my first thought was sponsorship rules

In fact just checked and officially on Champions League nights the ground is called the City of Manchester Stadium in all UEFA media output like the match report on there website

www.uefa.com

History: Man City 4-1 Club Brugge: UEFA Champions League 2021/22 Group stage

Man City vs Club Brugge 2021/22. All UEFA Champions League match information including stats, goals, results, history, and more.
www.uefa.com www.uefa.com
 
Like the World Cup, Stadiums are not allowed to have sponsorship names in the CL.

Clubs, on the other hand:
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The MMU Institute of Sport is now complete.

The plan was for a new MMU Institute of Sport building at the Etihad Campus, but MMU shelved the proposal and decided to redevelop the old Students Union building on Oxford Road instead.

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www.placenorthwest.co.uk

Major projects complete at Manchester Metropolitan University - Place North West

MMU has taken possession of both its flagship School of Digital Arts and The Institute of Sport buildings, projects reflecting a combined investment of more than £60m.
www.placenorthwest.co.uk www.placenorthwest.co.uk
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Either the Metrolink system cannot accommodate more frequent Mets, or the people who run Metrolink have no idea that the current service on matchdays aren’t frequent or good enough.

I’ve noticed, pre-game, Mets to Victoria/Piccadilly/Bury/Rochdale/Oldham are emptying their passengers onto Cornbrook to wait for the Ashton Met to get to the Etihad, yet not everyone can even get onto the Ashton Met at Cornbrook when it finally comes because there are too many people trying to squeeze onto it. The order of Mets arriving at Cornbrook is still in the same order… Ashton/Victoria/Piccadilly/Bury/Rochdale/Oldham/Ashton… surely there dont need to be the same number of Mets from Altrincham/Airport/Didsbury going to Victoria/Piccadilly/Bury/Rochdale/Oldham while only the same small number of Mets go from Eccles to Ashton every 12 minutes?! Surely the frequency of Eccles to/from Ashton can increase for two hours before kick off and two hours after kick off?!

There shouldn’t be any single units travelling through the Etihad in the period of two hours before and after kick off. And they should be arriving and leaving every 6 minutes.

Yet I’ve seen single units, and even on the big screens in the ground (where they’ve started showing Met times at the end of games) they’re showing waiting times for the next Met as 12 or even 24 minutes. That’s not good enough!

The whole system needs looking at for the period required for matches.
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They show team times on the big screens ? Since when ? All through match ? Just at the end ? You mean the big screens in the corners or. TVs in bath areas etc as a season ticket holder for years I have never seen any times not that I would be looking for it
 
WRicko said:
They show team times on the big screens ? Since when ? All through match ? Just at the end ? You mean the big screens in the corners or. TVs in bath areas etc as a season ticket holder for years I have never seen any times not that I would be looking for it
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You can have a bath at the game now?
 
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