Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

People need to let this yellow wall nonsense go.

We have been told categorically from people that know that it isnt happening. I have been told by a pal who works at City in a fairly high position that it isnt happening.

I posted in this thread 2 weeks or so ago exactly what he told me is happening (mirrors south stand, hotels, food outlets incorporated, club shop within it and city square moved back)

Also it will start as soon as the arena is done.
Also the merc garage purchase appears to be true too.

So really, some people need to move on from this.

Secondly, and i’ll pre-empt this by saying i love our owners dearly and will thank them til my dying day for making my dreams come true..
But … if you think they give much of a fuck about the match going fan youre sadly mistaken. Dozens of examples why they dont and its all about the dollar. Harsh but true
 
Bluesince1979 said:
People need to let this yellow wall nonsense go.

We have been told categorically from people that know that it isnt happening. I have been told by a pal who works at City in a fairly high position that it isnt happening.

I posted in this thread 2 weeks or so ago exactly what he told me is happening (mirrors south stand, hotels, food outlets incorporated, club shop within it and city square moved back)

Also it will start as soon as the arena is done.
Also the merc garage purchase appears to be true too.

So really, some people need to move on from this.

Secondly, and i’ll pre-empt this by saying i love our owners dearly and will thank them til my dying day for making my dreams come true..
But … if you think they give much of a fuck about the match going fan youre sadly mistaken. Dozens of examples why they dont and its all about the dollar. Harsh but true
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The fans would be happy with the three tiers if they were as follows, one an elevated first tier that is full of safe standing, a second tier that joins up with the old second tier so forming a massive second tier. If your pal is high up tell him what people discuss on here that people want to see the plans in a consultation.
 
LEXSTARproject said:
The fans would be happy with the three tiers if they were as follows, one an elevated first tier that is full of safe standing, a second tier that joins up with the old second tier so forming a massive second tier. If your pal is high up tell him what people discuss on here that people want to see the plans in a consultation.
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FWIW, The plans are done, the brochure is made and it’s all under lock and key for now. :-)
 
LEXSTARproject said:
The fans would be happy with the three tiers if they were as follows, one an elevated first tier that is full of safe standing, a second tier that joins up with the old second tier so forming a massive second tier. If your pal is high up tell him what people discuss on here that people want to see the plans in a consultation.
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What planet are you on?
 
LEXSTARproject said:
The fans would be happy with the three tiers if they were as follows, one an elevated first tier that is full of safe standing, a second tier that joins up with the old second tier so forming a massive second tier. If your pal is high up tell him what people discuss on here that people want to see the plans in a consultation.
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Honestly mate , a poster a few posts back said itll be whatever generates most cash. And losing corperate/boxes to have a bigger second tier wont float the owners boat
 
LEXSTARproject said:
The fans would be happy with the three tiers if they were as follows, one an elevated first tier that is full of safe standing, a second tier that joins up with the old second tier so forming a massive second tier. If your pal is high up tell him what people discuss on here that people want to see the plans in a consultation.
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Not being sarky, but what "the fans would be happy with" will be highly unlikely to be the deciding factor. He who pays the piper calls the tune. What HH wants is what will happen.
 
LEXSTARproject said:
The fans would be happy with the three tiers if they were as follows, one an elevated first tier that is full of safe standing, a second tier that joins up with the old second tier so forming a massive second tier. If your pal is high up tell him what people discuss on here that people want to see the plans in a consultation.
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Are you the self appointed spokesperson for the fans
 
LEXSTARproject said:
The fans would be happy with the three tiers if they were as follows, one an elevated first tier that is full of safe standing, a second tier that joins up with the old second tier so forming a massive second tier. If your pal is high up tell him what people discuss on here that people want to see the plans in a consultation.
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To be fair there was a fans consultation with models that was done in a portacabin at games a few seasons back before games, remember doing it. How much of that was taken on board, who knows. I guess feedback that didn’t impact the financial side may have been feedback that did impact it not so much. Doubt if they held another consultation, feedback or the impact of the feedback would have changed much from the original consultation.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
People need to let this yellow wall nonsense go.

We have been told categorically from people that know that it isnt happening. I have been told by a pal who works at City in a fairly high position that it isnt happening.

I posted in this thread 2 weeks or so ago exactly what he told me is happening (mirrors south stand, hotels, food outlets incorporated, club shop within it and city square moved back)

Also it will start as soon as the arena is done.
Also the merc garage purchase appears to be true too.

So really, some people need to move on from this.

Secondly, and i’ll pre-empt this by saying i love our owners dearly and will thank them til my dying day for making my dreams come true..
But … if you think they give much of a fuck about the match going fan youre sadly mistaken. Dozens of examples why they dont and its all about the dollar. Harsh but true
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Not doubting you. All snippets are always welcome, regardless of the source. Thanks.

If the NS mirrors the SS thats under 60,000. The general consensus has always been City want the Etihad capacity to be over 60,000.

Mirroring the SS certainly isn’t creating a proper home end that everyone wants, regardless of the design. It’s just creating another 3rd tier and adding 6000 seats.

The Etihad has been shortlisted for Euro 2028 alongside Old Trafford. 2 venues in the same City. Whilst the Emirates and Anfield were rejected. Anfield will have a capacity of 61,000 once the Anfield Road stand is expanded.

I’m guessing here and I’m probably wrong, but for the Etihad to be shortlisted alongside Old Trafford there must be an exciting NS proposal, and a large increase in capacity at the Etihad for that to happen?
 
If the north mirrors the south, how do you all think the 3 tiers will be laid out?

Possible options:

Tier 3 - Similar pricing structure to SSL3
Tier 2 - Family Stand + new central premium seating block.
Tier 1 - Safe Standing ‘home end’

Tier 3 - Similar pricing structure to SSL3 / All safe standing
Tier 2 - Mix of premium, corporate and standard.
Tier 1 - Family Stand
 
Re comments on the stadium etc. I agree with @Psychedelic Casual (we agree on most things I think haha). Our stadium definitely isn't in the world beating category.

The reality is it's 20 years old and while corporate areas have been tarted up (as has the south stand L1 concourse bar this season, and kudos to the club it's really great!) the ground is showing its age heavily and isn't anything special.

It needs massive investment to compete with the new grounds. I've not been, but all the photos of the new Spurs ground looks fantastic - you've got to give credit to Spurs for doing that.
 
jrb said:
Not doubting you. All snippets are always welcome, regardless of the source. Thanks.

If the NS mirrors the SS thats under 60,000. The general consensus has always been City want the Etihad capacity to be over 60,000.

Mirroring the SS certainly isn’t creating a proper home end that everyone wants, regardless of the design. It’s just creating another 3rd tier and adding 6000 seats.

The Etihad has been shortlisted for Euro 2028 alongside Old Trafford. 2 venues in the same City. Whilst the Emirates and Anfield were rejected. Anfield will have a capacity of 61,000 once the Anfield Road stand is expanded.

I’m guessing here and I’m probably wrong, but for the Etihad to be shortlisted alongside Old Trafford there must be an exciting NS proposal, and a large increase in capacity at the Etihad for that to happen?
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If I remember rightly when worsleyweb was on here he said at some point the club had decided on the large 2nd tier option. I may be mis remembering , or the plans may have changed again.Though the stand incorporating a hotel was never mentioned, I’m sure he did say the plans incorporated a shop and extended to include City Square.
 
blueparrot said:
If I remember rightly when worsleyweb was on here he said at some point the club had decided on the large 2nd tier option. I may be mis remembering , or the plans may have changed again.Though the stand incorporating a hotel was never mentioned, I’m sure he did say the plans incorporated a shop and extended to include City Square.
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I’ve never been convinced by the hotel rumour. It would be great to incorporate a hotel into the stand, but the cost of doing that would be high. I’m more inclined to think the souvenir store would be incorporated into the NS, just like the souvenir store is at Old Trafford.

Just done a bit of digging.

Invitations have now been issued to cities and stadia in England to bid to become a tournament venue in 2028 – with the minimum seating capacity to join the selection process needing to be more than 30,000.

www.thefa.com

English FA opens host city and stadia selection process for UEFA EURO 2028 bid

Hosts required!
www.thefa.com www.thefa.com

On a serious note, without taking the p*ss out of the Scousers, I still don’t understand why Anfield didn’t make the shortlist.
 
jrb said:
I’ve never been convinced by the hotel rumour. It would be great to incorporate a hotel into the stand, but the cost of doing that would be high. I’m more inclined to think the souvenir store would be incorporated into the NS, just like the souvenir store is at Old Trafford.

Just done a bit of digging.

Invitations have now been issued to cities and stadia in England to bid to become a tournament venue in 2028 – with the minimum seating capacity to join the selection process needing to be more than 30,000.

www.thefa.com

English FA opens host city and stadia selection process for UEFA EURO 2028 bid

Hosts required!
www.thefa.com www.thefa.com

On a serious note, without taking the p*ss out of the Scousers, I still don’t understand why Anfield didn’t make the shortlist.
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Anfield pitch is too small and below the UEFA standard allowing it to host finals and major international tournament games.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Re comments on the stadium etc. I agree with @Psychedelic Casual (we agree on most things I think haha). Our stadium definitely isn't in the world beating category.

The reality is it's 20 years old and while corporate areas have been tarted up (as has the south stand L1 concourse bar this season, and kudos to the club it's really great!) the ground is showing its age heavily and isn't anything special.

It needs massive investment to compete with the new grounds. I've not been, but all the photos of the new Spurs ground looks fantastic - you've got to give credit to Spurs for doing that.
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It's certainly starting to show its age outside as well. Lots of cracked paving stones and faded colours on the ground. I'd imagine, reading rumours above, the expanded south stand + arena will come with a general redevelopment of outside.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
It's certainly starting to show its age outside as well. Lots of cracked paving stones and faded colours on the ground. I'd imagine, reading rumours above, the expanded south stand + arena will come with a general redevelopment of outside.
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The shite faded flaking paint and concrete outside drives me mad. What would it cost to sort that, a few grand? Inexcusable that the club haven't sorted that out - they had two fucking years during covid.
 
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