Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

[pride in battle]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Thanks JRB.

Interesting to see that the East elevation of the college has no windows other than for stairwells... I wonder if it's to do with the low sun in the morning? Great idea and design if so.

Or it might be to stop them hanging out of the windows to watch the teams train?

Look at the first shot showing the whole leisure centre/6th form area. All of the buildings have large glass frontages and then largely solid walls on the sides. Looks to be aesthetic.

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great move making a bunch of kids cross Alan Turing Way to get to the 'shops' ... NOT


It's pedestrianised.....

Needs a bridge...

It's hard to tell at that magnification, but it looks to me like the road goes under an underpass there.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Some of the schools round our way have an amazing way of dealing with this problem of kids crossing roads.

They have these things called 'traffic lights'.

 

[Why Always Ste]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Some of the schools round our way have an amazing way of dealing with this problem of kids crossing roads.

They have these things called 'traffic lights'.

Most of the schools around our way have traffic lights too.

It still doesn't stop them from playing chicken, showing off to their mates and darting across the road.

 

[MATCITY]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

great move making a bunch of kids cross Alan Turing Way to get to the 'shops' ... NOT

Needs a bridge...

If you can't cross the road by the time you're in 6th form then there is no hope for you

 

[BlueAnorak]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

great move making a bunch of kids cross Alan Turing Way to get to the 'shops' ... NOT

Needs a bridge...

If you can't cross the road by the time you're in 6th form then there is no hope for you

So true. Indeed removal from the gene pool for stupid actions probably does the human race as a whole a favour.

 

[pirate]

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great move making a bunch of kids cross Alan Turing Way to get to the 'shops' ... NOT

Needs a bridge...

If you can't cross the road by the time you're in 6th form then there is no hope for you

So true. Indeed removal from the gene pool for stupid actions probably does the human race as a whole a favour.

indeed, check out the Darwin awards

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.darwinawards.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.darwinawards.com/</a>

 

[Oystercatcher28]

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There is a bridge and an underpass on the map at stadium tours

 

[DiscoSteve]

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Some of the schools round our way have an amazing way of dealing with this problem of kids crossing roads.

They have these things called 'traffic lights'.

and thus making the traffic worse on Alan Turing Way...

Hope there is an underpass

 

[1.618034]

Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium

Thanks JRB.

Interesting to see that the East elevation of the college has no windows other than for stairwells... I wonder if it's to do with the low sun in the morning? Great idea and design if so.

Or it might be to stop them hanging out of the windows to watch the teams train?

Look at the first shot showing the whole leisure centre/6th form area. All of the buildings have large glass frontages and then largely solid walls on the sides. Looks to be aesthetic.

-- Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:09 am --

great move making a bunch of kids cross Alan Turing Way to get to the 'shops' ... NOT

Needs a bridge...

It's hard to tell at that magnification, but it looks to me like the road goes under an underpass there.

Looked again and the East elevation is the one that faces the training pitches but lots of windows on the others.

And it doesn't look like there's an underpass... But it looks like it might be a 20 zone going through that area as the road is a different colour...

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[Gary James]

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I'm sure a Club Museum would bring in 600 visitors a day. Surely we've got enough history / artefacts etc to warrant one?

I recently went on the official Stadium tour which was good but you just felt it could be a lot better. I think there are 3 tours a day and certainly during school holidays they are full with 30 people on each tour.

Obviously someone like Gary James could / should be involved in this too.

Personally I could walk along a row of all the shirts we've worn and reminisce about bygone eras, I'm sure there's all sorts of thing that a museum could encompass like that.

I think there should be some sort of cafe too, that's open on non-match days.

Don't want to burst any bubbles on this because I do strongly believe in developing a proper stadium tour and museum style attraction at the ground, but there isn't a club museum in the world (with the possible exception of Barcelona) that attracts over 200,000 - that's what 600 a day works out at.

Utd often claim figures close on 200k but in truth their numbers are about 100k to 150k depending on success and other factors. LFC's best was about 150k when they won the CL a few years back but they were averaging about 30k a decade ago and typically average 60k. In 1992 MUFC's museum only had about 17k visitors - I've got the research somewhere. That to me proves that attractions have to build up a little over time - plus success does help.

The NFM will exceed the 200k figure but that's a National Footy museum and free.

I've done lots of research over the years on this and visited most of the museums/attractions. In 2002 I project managed the development of our old museum & tour. The budget started at £1m with a decent maintenance budget but was slashed to 500k around the time Chris Bird left and then to £350k a little while later with no (seriously - zero!) annual maintenance - to put that into context MUFC spent over £1m on one small display c.2000. My initial plan was to build a decent interactive museum & tour and a proper digital archive of MCFC's progs/literature/sounds/videos etc. with plans to improve it year on year, but once budget slashed that was impossible.

Nevertheless, it still became the first footy museum to be nominated for an award for excellence at the national museum awards, and won several north-west & Greater Manchester attraction awards.

Its busiest year saw about 25k attend - and while I was there (opened Dec 2003; I left Jan 2009 and it closed in May 2009) it attracted an average of £21k a year - not bad for a museum that had no budget to buy objects or even maintain its facilities.

This is something of course that I still care passionately about and would love to see how MCFC take the club's tour/museum attractions forward.