Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site

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Shaelumstash said:
There's plenty of seating in City Square which is right next to the tram stop, and they have post match drinks / entertainment.

Thanks. I forgot about City Square. I've seen it on non-match days but didn't go there for the only couple of games I've been to in the last year or two.
 
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somapop said:
Yes - cheers for posting that map Ste. The more people they can potentially spurt into a leisure attraction the better for the success of building 'Panda World' etc....

With regard to the leisure development Petrusha, you might be able to throw a little lights on this: When Manchester had the 'supercasino' 'taken' away from them (Gordon Brown/house of commons voted it out?) Manchester hired a bigwig lawyer to bolster a legal challenge to the then government (as it had sucessfully bid for the casino and 'won' seemingly fair and square). The govt then promised (I know...) funding for 'alternative regeneration packages' in place of the supercasino. Never quite heard what happened next (aside from a new govt in power and a harsh recession). Is Manchester CC still owed something for this?

Thanks for your other reply as well, mate. As for funding with regard to the Super Casino, the Council was meant to have been offered a GBP 10 million government funding package to compensate for the loss of the casino. Story below from the Guardian in early 2008 or link here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/feb/26/gambling.regeneration

Manchester offered deal to soften supercasino blow

Patrick Wintour, political editor
The Guardian, Tuesday 26 February 2008

The government is to offer multimillion pound regeneration packages to Manchester and Blackpool today to make up for the decision not to grant a supercasino licence to either city.

Ministers will soften the impact of Gordon Brown's "big moral decision" with a series of measures, including a £10m boost for Manchester's Sports City, the one-time planned site for the casino. They are also expected to announce that 4,000 jobs will be created by extending until 2014 the life of the urban regeneration company New East Manchester, which was due to close shortly.

A higher education initiative, including a campus boosting the number of students in the city, is also on the cards.

Ministerial sources hope the package will be sufficient to prevent the Labour-controlled Manchester city council seeking a judicial review of the decision not to go ahead with the supercasino in Beswick, one of its most rundown areas.

Labour MPs had pleaded with culture secretary Andy Burnham to delay the announcement confirming Manchester was not to host a supercasino until he had a regeneration package to announce as compensation. Some of the investment will go on a BMX extreme sports centre.

The city council says it invested nearly £250,000 in its efforts to win the supercasino and made no bid for a medium-sized casino. The local authority is bitter at Brown's handling of the issue but has been explicit that it will not go ahead with legal action if some kind of jobs package is presented.

Blackpool will be told it can go ahead with a £300m regeneration package, including an £82m investment in 3.2km (1.9 miles) of new sea defences and an extra £100m investment in further education.

Both councils will scour the small print to see the scale of the money involved.

Brown won plaudits from opponents of gambling by rejecting the supercasino enthusiastically backed by Tony Blair, but he knows he now has to answer charges that his moral scruples have deprived two rundown areas of the best chance for regeneration. Both have marginal constituencies that Brown dare not lose.

The government's task has been made more difficult since a report requested by Brown from the communities secretary, Hazel Blears, has failed to come up with a single alternative to regeneration through gambling. The report argues there is no silver bullet, but rather measures such as better transport, labour market skills and targeted investment are needed.

One source said it was not possible for the government to invent an industry to regenerate an area.

Burnham will confirm that 16 planned medium casinos will go ahead, although he will demand that the casino operators put more money into a gambling addiction prevention fund.

In January 2006, the casino advisory panel selected Manchester over Blackpool for a supercasino, but the proposal hit a roadblock when peers voted against giving the franchise to Manchester amid furious lobbying.

Brown then said he would not seek to overturn the Lords decision.

I can't remember what happened with this, though. I'll try and find out and will post if I do (unless someone else already knows and posts the information first).
 
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petrusha said:
somapop said:
Yes - cheers for posting that map Ste. The more people they can potentially spurt into a leisure attraction the better for the success of building 'Panda World' etc....

With regard to the leisure development Petrusha, you might be able to throw a little lights on this: When Manchester had the 'supercasino' 'taken' away from them (Gordon Brown/house of commons voted it out?) Manchester hired a bigwig lawyer to bolster a legal challenge to the then government (as it had sucessfully bid for the casino and 'won' seemingly fair and square). The govt then promised (I know...) funding for 'alternative regeneration packages' in place of the supercasino. Never quite heard what happened next (aside from a new govt in power and a harsh recession). Is Manchester CC still owed something for this?

Thanks for your other reply as well, mate. As for funding with regard to the Super Casino, the Council was meant to have been offered a GBP 10 million government funding package to compensate for the loss of the casino. Story below from the Guardian in early 2008 or link here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/feb/26/gambling.regeneration

Manchester offered deal to soften supercasino blow

Patrick Wintour, political editor
The Guardian, Tuesday 26 February 2008

The government is to offer multimillion pound regeneration packages to Manchester and Blackpool today to make up for the decision not to grant a supercasino licence to either city.

Ministers will soften the impact of Gordon Brown's "big moral decision" with a series of measures, including a £10m boost for Manchester's Sports City, the one-time planned site for the casino. They are also expected to announce that 4,000 jobs will be created by extending until 2014 the life of the urban regeneration company New East Manchester, which was due to close shortly.

A higher education initiative, including a campus boosting the number of students in the city, is also on the cards.

Ministerial sources hope the package will be sufficient to prevent the Labour-controlled Manchester city council seeking a judicial review of the decision not to go ahead with the supercasino in Beswick, one of its most rundown areas.

Labour MPs had pleaded with culture secretary Andy Burnham to delay the announcement confirming Manchester was not to host a supercasino until he had a regeneration package to announce as compensation. Some of the investment will go on a BMX extreme sports centre.

The city council says it invested nearly £250,000 in its efforts to win the supercasino and made no bid for a medium-sized casino. The local authority is bitter at Brown's handling of the issue but has been explicit that it will not go ahead with legal action if some kind of jobs package is presented.

Blackpool will be told it can go ahead with a £300m regeneration package, including an £82m investment in 3.2km (1.9 miles) of new sea defences and an extra £100m investment in further education.

Both councils will scour the small print to see the scale of the money involved.

Brown won plaudits from opponents of gambling by rejecting the supercasino enthusiastically backed by Tony Blair, but he knows he now has to answer charges that his moral scruples have deprived two rundown areas of the best chance for regeneration. Both have marginal constituencies that Brown dare not lose.

The government's task has been made more difficult since a report requested by Brown from the communities secretary, Hazel Blears, has failed to come up with a single alternative to regeneration through gambling. The report argues there is no silver bullet, but rather measures such as better transport, labour market skills and targeted investment are needed.

One source said it was not possible for the government to invent an industry to regenerate an area.

Burnham will confirm that 16 planned medium casinos will go ahead, although he will demand that the casino operators put more money into a gambling addiction prevention fund.

In January 2006, the casino advisory panel selected Manchester over Blackpool for a supercasino, but the proposal hit a roadblock when peers voted against giving the franchise to Manchester amid furious lobbying.

Brown then said he would not seek to overturn the Lords decision.

I can't remember what happened with this, though. I'll try and find out and will post if I do (unless someone else already knows and posts the information first).

IIRC the monies have been used to ready the ground for any new development with over £20m spent on that to press.
 
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^^ Cheers fbloke - was that siphoned from another regeneration kitty, or directly related to the proposed legal challenge?
I remember thinking that £20 million just to prepare the ground alone suggests any fears over nothing ever happening on the collar site should be allayed pretty quickly.
 
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somapop said:
^^ Cheers fbloke - was that siphoned from another regeneration kitty, or directly related to the proposed legal challenge?
I remember thinking that £20 million just to prepare the ground alone suggests any fears over nothing ever happening on the collar site should be allayed pretty quickly.

I can't remember where the funds came from exactly but I suspect it was Homes and Communities.

The same thing happened in reverse when the FA talked about moving the national stadium away from London.

Brent Council told the FA that they would have to pay for clean up themselves and that bill would be well in excess of £40m.
 
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Full breakdown can be found here -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchester.gov.uk/egov_downloads/7_Sportcity_-_Remediation_and_Site_Servicing_works.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchester.gov.uk/egov_downl ... _works.pdf</a>


The total cost of the remediation and site servicing package works and professional
fees is estimated at £18.349m. This will be funded from a range of funding provided
by third party agencies including ERDF, NWDA and HCA. At this stage, £5m of
ERDF funding has been secured, pending application approval, which will be
matched with a funding package of up to £2.7m from the HCA’s existing commitment
to Sportcity. Discussions are advanced with the HCA and the NWDA about the
remaining funding and its phasing.
The recommendations in this report, if approved, will increase the capital budget by
£18.349m to be spent 2010/11. There is a requirement for any ERDF contribution
and matched element to be spent by the end of December 2010. Any expenditure on
the scheme will be subject to the City Council’s Gateway approval process which will
ensure that funding is not committed until the external resources have been secured.
 
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Whatever happened to the plans for this?

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Seems to have been dropped from the conversations.
 
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I think the ring around the stadium shown on the pic must be the 'name disc wall'...the shop halo I always felt (hoped) looked a bit temporary...
 
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fbloke said:
IIRC the monies have been used to ready the ground for any new development with over £20m spent on that to press.

Thanks. I knew that there were grants that allowed the remediation work to be done on 17 acres on the 'collar site'. (Per your subsequent post, they came from the ERDF, NWDA and HCA). I'd never appreciated that those grants were a part of the fallout from the super casino decision, though.
 
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