EU referendum deal (title edited)

There's a referendum to see if we want to come out? When was the one that took us in?
We voted for a common market in the 70's, everything else has been ushered in without the people's consent. The politicians are in for a massive shock when the majority vote out. It's not just about immigration, it's about the way we have surrendered the power of law to people beyond our democratic choice. This vote will be the best chance to give power to the people - a revolution by ballot box.
 
Some foreign owned "British" brands.

HP is the famous brown sauce of the Houses of Parliament (hence the name). Nevertheless, it is owned by Americans: Heinz purchased it in 2005.

House of Fraser is owned by the Sanpower Group, a Chinese corporation that bought it this year for £450 million ($716 million). Before that it was owned by the Icelandic group Baugur.

What could be more British than Sarsons vinegar on a plate of fish and chips? A Japanese vinegar manufacturer, Mizkan, bought Sarsons in 2012 for £41 million ($66 million).

Branston Pickle was also acquired by Mizkan, last year for £92.5 million ($147 million).

Walker Crisps are 56% of all crisps and popcorn sold in Britain. The brand was bought by PepsiCo back in 1989. (In America, Walkers are called Lays.)

Weetabix, the famous breakfast cereal, has been in Chinese hands for two years. Shanghai-based consortium Bright Food bought it in May 2012.

Hartley's Jam was bought by American corporation Hain Celestial in 2012, for £200 million ($320 million).

The car manufacturer Jaguar was bought by India's Tata in 2008. Before that it was owned by Ford — based in Detroit, Michigan.

Caterham Racing Team in Formula One. Sold to an undisclosed consortium of Swiss and Middle Eastern investors in July this year.

A third of the milk drunk in Britain is owned by foreign companies: Wiseman Milk is now part of the German group Müller, which bought it in 2012.

Cadbury has a similarly dominant position in the British chocolate market. It was bought by Kraft in 2010 and is now incorporated into Mondelēz International, a US company.

British law states that everyone must eat a Terry's Chocolate Orange at Christmas. But Terry's is also owned by Mondelēz, and the orange factory is in Poland.

Tetley has traded on its English heritage for decades. However, it is owned by India's Tata Global Beverages.

Another Indian group owns Typhoo Tea: Apeejay Surrendra bought it in 2005 for £80 million ($127 million).

Newcastle Brown Ale was purchased by Heineken of the Netherlands in 2008. The beer is produced in Yorkshire in the same factory as John Smith's, also owned by the Dutch.

Bass was one of the first 30 companies to be listed on the London Stock Exchange. It was bought by Interbrew in 2000, and it is now part of America's AB-InBev.

Beefeater Gin means London and the Tower, but the French group Pernod Ricard has controlled it since 1987.

The same company owns Chivas Regal, which claims to be crafted by the oldest distillery in Scotland.

Glenlivet, an icon of Scotch single malts, is the best-selling whisky in the US (and owned by Pernod Ricard since 2000).

Scottish Power has been controlled by the Spanish multi-utility Iberdrola since 2006.

Many British utilities are actually owned abroad. nPower, for example, was bought by the German provider RWE in 2002.

So is Thames Water, which is controlled by the Macquarie Group of Australia, since 2006.
Another is the Northumbrian Water Group, which has been bought by Chung Kong Infrastructure in 2011.

Mobile networks are not exempt: O2 was bought by Telefònica, a Spanish group, in 2005.

EE is the largest mobile network in Britain. It is a joint venture between Deutsche Telekom and Orange SA. (Orange used to be a British company, before it was bought by France Telecom in 2000.)

Even Heathrow Airport is owned by foreigners: a consortium of international investors, lead by the Spanish Grupo Ferrovial, has controlled it since 2006.

TfL is controlled by the Greater London Authority, but its famous red double-deckers operate through international partners. The biggest, Arriva, is a subsidiary of Deutsche Bahn, the German national railway, since 2010.

It is hard to forget that Britain's "paper of record", The Times, is owned by the Australian-American Rupert Murdoch.

Hamley's was also owned by Baugur, before being sold to the French Ludendo Groupe for £60 million ($95 million).

ASDA is actually a Wal-Mart subsidiary since 1999. The American giant bought it for £6.7 billion ($10.7 billion).

Umbro has passed from one foreign corporation to another: The US's Iconix Brand Group took it from Nike in 2012 for £141 million ($225 million).

Boots UK is the latest British brand to Walgreens, the biggest pharmacy company in the world, bought it this August for £5.65 billion ($9 billion). It was previously owned by Stefano Pessina, an Italian entrepreneur.
 
In fairness even if he comes back with only a toblerone it is something, the bearded one would have come back with a sore hole and dubious breath, that's if he would have bothered to go at all I believe the only stamps in his passport are Palestinian ones.

You are right of course however I have to say Cameron or Corbyn choice is much like being sent to prison for something you didnt do and finding when you get there you have a choice between sharing a cell with a large aggressive gay gentleman called winston who has a 10 inch cock or an equally aggresive gay gentleman called bubba who has a 9 and a half inch cock. Not alot of difference really both are a pretty grim choice.
 
There's a referendum to see if we want to come out? When was the one that took us in?
We voted for a common market in the 70's, everything else has been ushered in without the people's consent. The politicians are in for a massive shock when the majority vote out. It's not just about immigration, it's about the way we have surrendered the power of law to people beyond our democratic choice. This vote will be the best chance to give power to the people - a revolution by ballot box.
 
You are right of course however I have to say Cameron or Corbyn choice is much like being sent to prison for something you didnt do and finding when you get there you have a choice between sharing a cell with a large aggressive gay gentleman called winston who has a 10 inch cock or an equally aggresive gay gentleman called bubba who has a 9 and a half inch cock. Not alot of difference really both are a pretty grim choice.

True but we were always going to get next to fuck all, basically we are asking the Europeans to abandon their vision, so he did what he could basically asked them to throw him a crumb so he could swing a yes vote, this piffling deal may well convince enough of the undecided so he has lost nothing.
 
Like how he claims he's fought tooth and nail for this "deal" when in reality he has gone there and wined and dined for a couple of days and then asked them for some useless tiny changes so he can come back and try and act the hero.
 
In fairness even if he comes back with only a toblerone it is something, the bearded one would have come back with a sore hole and dubious breath, that's if he would have bothered to go at all I believe the only stamps in his passport are Palestinian ones.
To get the toblerone though he is prepared to gamble with our membership of the EU.
 

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