EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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argyle said:
Doesn''t understand that we were over fishing so regulations needed to happen

Calls Eastern European people scoungers

Calls England 'Englandstan'

I think both sides will be glad you left.
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I certainly am .......and so is my sister ( Now in Cyprus ) my brother ( Now in Australia ) and up until he died in 2009 my dad ( Here in USA with me )

Britain was once a country where everyone could live together, people of mixed races lived in harmony....not now, when people are allowed to spew hate in the street from outside mosques saying death to Britain, America etc and being allowed to burn flags ( union jack ) then the place has become a joke....those same people burning the flag and calling for Jihad's then go and pick up their child/housing benefit payments from the post office ..... as I said 15 years ago Britain was a good multi cultural society ...not now and as I have already said... you are correct THANK FUCK I LEFT.
 
Daz_Blue said:
The main one is killing the UK's fishing industry...telling fisherman they cannot fish more than 12 miles off the British coast..... UK fishing is 85% down compared to what it was in the late 70s.
Being told a skilled worker from USA/Australia/India etc cannot come and work in the UK but some less skilled scrounger from Eastern Europe can .... I bet they still line up in TESCO with their fucking food stamps with their shopping trolley's filled to the brim ..... I was lucky to have a full shopping cart when I shopped their but had to work 60+ hours a week for the privilege.

I left Englandstan in 2005 but still have family members there ......nearly all of them working class traditional Labour voters and they are split on which way they are voting ...

I would of voted to remain up until 10 years ago ...not now
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I believe that the vast, vast majority of EU immigrants come to the UK to work. However the issue with these people is benefits
Cameron came out with one of his spin comments yesterday when he said that EU immigrant workers are not entitled to full UK benefits for four years
He didn't say "benefits" he said "full benefits"
 
CityStu said:
Why have someone in the country if they aren't going to contribute?
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You shouldn't. But that's not the point. The claim was made that a points system gives an equal chance to everyone, which is just palpable bullshit.
 
InMyLifetime-BaconChops said:
I shall be voting Out today. I urge you all to do the same.

We have heard an astonishing amount of ugly rhetoric and sheer nonsense in this debate. Both sides have largely been full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Brexit will not open up a glorious new era of peculiarly shaped bananas and curvaceous cucumbers either. Nor, conversely, will it result in Armageddon, or reduce us to Zimbabwe-style economics, trundling wheelbarrows full of fifties into the shops to buy half a loaf.

I’ve genuinely been torn on this referendum, but I cannot get away from the fact that the EU is a profoundly undemocratic institution - everything else is beside the point. As Tony Benn so memorably put it, it is better to have a bad Parliament than a good King. This is a political union so opaque in its dealings it would not even pass its own standards for EU entry.

I am not a racist, a bigot or a xenophobe - I simply believe the democratic principle to be of the most paramount importance. Whatever the flaws in our own parliamentary system, we have a group of lawmakers elected by the people, scrutinised by the people and ultimately kicked out by the people when they screw up. How do I seek to dethrone Jean-Claude Juncker? Who voted for Van Rompuy? If we cannot hold the EU to such a democratic standard - and if the EU is unreformable, as Juncker confirmed today (along with forty years of experience inside) - to vote Remain would be to defend the utterly indefensible.
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Jean-Claude Juncker was voted in by the European Parliament who are in turn made up of the MEPs that you are eligible to vote for. He has a term for 5 years and then goes. He was voted in Nov 2014. Arguably more democratic than the positioning of Cameron (whose leadership of the tories was a private ballot) and who i have never voted for and yet is making decisions for me.
In fact people who want him out but live in areas that have high tory support, or even his own constituency, will never get the chance, so much for British democracy. You cannot dethrone Cameron.

van Rompuy is the ex leader of the European Council, now run by Donald Tusk. The council is separate from the EU. He had his own advisors or in British terms a cabinet. His position is also rotated hence Donald Tusk now doing the job. He was voted in by the European council who were the heads of state. Again, those heads of state are voted for by you.

So, as the democratic principle is of paramount importance to you, you can rest easy knowing that your vote is in there, somewhere, just like everyone elses, including those that have different views from you, but the principle stands.

To vote Remain is the democratic right of anyone, to call it indefensible is to argue against democracy.
 
Daz_Blue said:


I certainly am .......and so is my sister ( Now in Cyprus ) my brother ( Now in Australia ) and up until he died in 2009 my dad ( Here in USA with me )

Britain was once a country where everyone could live together, people of mixed races lived in harmony....not now, when people are allowed to spew hate in the street from outside mosques saying death to Britain, America etc and being allowed to burn flags ( union jack ) then the place has become a joke....those same people burning the flag and calling for Jihad's then go and pick up their child/housing benefit payments from the post office ..... as I said 15 years ago Britain was a good multi cultural society ...not now and as I have already said... you are correct THANK FUCK I LEFT.
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My god you've swallowed so much right wing bs you'd be a good fit for a new National Social Democrat Party should you wish to set one up. Do you use a four letter abbreviation when referring to anyone from the Indian Subcontinent?
 
dickie davies said:
I believe that the vast, vast majority of EU immigrants come to the UK to work. However the issue with these people is benefits
Cameron came out with one of his spin comments yesterday when he said that EU immigrant workers are not entitled to full UK benefits for four years
He didn't say "benefits" he said "full benefits"
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What benefits do you say they'll be getting then? Why do Brexits constantly say things they can't back up?
 
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