EU referendum

[DiscoSteve]

57% is a lie

 

[grunge]

72 times the UK has voted against something and lost doesn't suggest it would feel that democratic for the UK.

Its a vote, voting is democratic, seems a little excessive we're always on the losing side but maybe that more down to our cherry picking standpoint than anything.

 

[SWP's back]

Its a vote, voting is democratic, seems a little excessive we're always on the losing side but maybe that more down to our cherry picking standpoint than anything.

Or maybe what will suit us and what suits Europe are two different things.

If only there was some way of separating?

 

[Blue Haze]

Christ. Have only just read about it

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-why-the-answer-should-scare-you-9779688.html

It's horrendous.

The TTIP along with the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) will create a free trade zone from Romania across North America to Malaysia and Vietnam.

Like it or not, these regulations will change trade forever. Because of the TPP, the TTIP means you will be competing against slave labor from Asia.

TPP:

TTIP:

 

[hgblue]

Or maybe what will suit us and what suits Europe are two different things.

If only there was some way of separating?

Are you sure you're an inner?

 

[mackenzie]

God I hope that is scaremongering, get that info out and even the inners would feel extremely uneasy

I heard about it only recently too, when I was on a Trade Union course. It's an horrendous scenario.

 

[inbetween]

The poll on here is really interesting, despite everyone seemingly saying out there is still 47% who say in.

In my opinion it will be extremely close because so far the only people speaking loudly about it are those who want to leave.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

We were talking about Cameron's non-veto veto over a potential treaty change a few pages ago and here's a fascinating article from the FT about that.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6c5e100e-27ee-11e1-a4c4-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1gsqN543I

 

[hilts]

I heard about it only recently too, when I was on a Trade Union course. It's an horrendous scenario.

The multi nationals really do run the whole world don't they, can't see it happening but to even contemplate it is worrying, there maybe a difference of opinion on Europe but we need to be as far removed from the American model as we possibly can be

 

[hilts]

The poll on here is really interesting, despite everyone seemingly saying out there is still 47% who say in.

In my opinion it will be extremely close because so far the only people speaking loudly about it are those who want to leave.

The unsure or apathetic will vote stay in or not vote at all, the turn out will be interesting

 

[Tim of the Oak]

The poll on here is really interesting, despite everyone seemingly saying out there is still 47% who say in.

In my opinion it will be extremely close because so far the only people speaking loudly about it are those who want to leave.

The otters include many big mouths! There I've said it!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

72 times the UK has voted against something and lost doesn't suggest it would feel that democratic for the UK.

72 times out of how many votes and on what topics?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

They don't need to. The EU can stick it in a treaty and every member must abide. It's completely undemocratic.

These are the sort of treaties that the outers would sign up to for the UK. The Brexit leaders have said as much in virtually every interview I've seen or heard. Those posters linking this to anti EU rhetoric are a bit misguided!

 

[SWP's back]

Are you sure you're an inner?

I was firmly. But so far the IN camp have been able to come up with anything other than ad hominem and fear as the reasons to stay in.

 

[SWP's back]

72 times out of how many votes and on what topics?

Google is your friend (it's the last 72 times we've voted against anything)

 

[SWP's back]

The otters include many big mouths! There I've said it!

Leave the otters out if this. They've enough on their plate.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Leave the otters out if this. They've enough on their plate.

Haha! They deserve a vote lol!

 

[hilts]

The otters include many big mouths! There I've said it!

And protruding teeth

 

[hilts]

Google is your friend (it's the last 72 times we've voted against anything)

That argument about being round the table is better than being out with no power looks a little dodgier

 

[hgblue]

I was firmly. But so far the IN camp have been able to come up with anything other than ad hominem and fear as the reasons to stay in.

There's a bloody good reason for that. ;)