EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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BoyBlue_1985 said:
If we vote stay we should just become Europe. Go full Europe or go Home
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I've said this. We're in the EU but not really in as we have opted out of so much that's supposedly key to the EU project.

If we were voting on EU entry as a complete newbie, and having to accept things like the Euro & Schengen, the "Join" side would be lucky to get 25% of the vote.

So why not just come out and get an agreement that suits us rather than stay in and reject most of the core requirements?
 
inchy14 said:
I know what i want to leave for, i'm not interested in what Farage wants as he'll never be in a powerfull position to do anything about it.

What i will say is you're a fucking **** for labelling anyone who disagrees with your view point as racist/xenophobic and it's people like you who have forced the immigration debate underground in the first point.
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Listen flower don't get your nickers in a twist I'm stating the bleeding obvious. Its a bit like sharing a Britain First post and then not realising you're supporting a far right group of racist thugs.
 
Just released phone poll - bit surprised as I thought remain would be at least 5 points clear at this stage after recent events

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 4m4 minutes ago

EU referendum poll:
Remain: 45% (-)
Leave: 44% (+2)
(via Survation, phone / 20 Jun)
 
SWP's back said:
I understand where you're coming from but that's a bit like when the refs association say they get 98% of decisions right (which is fairly easy when a six year old could call 90% of them correctly)
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OK. It's fair to say that we don't have as many allies as say France and Germany so have less influence in some votes.
 
Ealing Blue,The EU buget (immigrants NO),Turkey +4 others their countries will be net recievers of EU funds,we are the 2nd biggest donors,They will receive money in turkey,(NOT IMMIGRANTS),So from your holier than thou perspective can you say that all immigrants arriving here will have £300K to buy a house NO,so their arrival pushes other people to the back of the Queue,More people renting makes for housing shotage,prices rise what about our children,grand-children.Hospital appointments will push you further back.As I said no one tells us the cost of remaining.Have you got a figure, your in accounts ,give us an estimate seeing you know everything.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've said this. We're in the EU but not really in as we have opted out of so much that's supposedly key to the EU project.

If we were voting on EU entry as a complete newbie, and having to accept things like the Euro & Schengen, the "Join" side would be lucky to get 25% of the vote.

So why not just come out and get an agreement that suits us rather than stay in and reject most of the core requirements?
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Its a very good point, we have a campaign telling us to stay in something about 40% ish dont want to be in on completely different terms to everyone else as we dont trust full integration into the system.
I know im getting a bit bored of hearing how shite this country is/will be without the EU helping us
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've said this. We're in the EU but not really in as we have opted out of so much that's supposedly key to the EU project.

If we were voting on EU entry as a complete newbie, and having to accept things like the Euro & Schengen, the "Join" side would be lucky to get 25% of the vote.

So why not just come out and get an agreement that suits us rather than stay in and reject most of the core requirements?
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I think it is reasonable to assume that if we were voting to join, we wouldn't (join). However, the country we live in would be different in a number of ways. We have no way of knowing if the UK would have prospered more or less if we had not gone in in the first place but we do know that our economic growth compares favourably other notable countries during our period of membership. So it all gets a bit hypothetical.
 
wahablue said:
Ealing Blue,The EU buget (immigrants NO),Turkey +4 others their countries will be net recievers of EU funds,we are the 2nd biggest donors,They will receive money in turkey,(NOT IMMIGRANTS),So from your holier than thou perspective can you say that all immigrants arriving here will have £300K to buy a house NO,so their arrival pushes other people to the back of the Queue,More people renting makes for housing shotage,prices rise what about our children,grand-children.Hospital appointments will push you further back.As I said no one tells us the cost of remaining.Have you got a figure, your in accounts ,give us an estimate seeing you know everything.
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what do you think clogs up hospitals - Young immigrants or the old and unhealthy? How many immigrants come to lounge around and not work? More people renting makes for wealthier landlords, makes for new housing stock, creates wealth et etc

Immigrants are not leeches, they come in contribute, many pay tax and work make the economy more productive. They keep the Ponzi scheme going, they fill jobs that companies want them for.

You have a deeply negative view of immigrants as if they are coming in to bum around and steal what's rightfully yours???
 
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wahablue said:
Ealing Blue,The EU buget (immigrants NO),Turkey +4 others their countries will be net recievers of EU funds,we are the 2nd biggest donors,They will receive money in turkey,(NOT IMMIGRANTS),So from your holier than thou perspective can you say that all immigrants arriving here will have £300K to buy a house NO,so their arrival pushes other people to the back of the Queue,More people renting makes for housing shotage,prices rise what about our children,grand-children.Hospital appointments will push you further back.As I said no one tells us the cost of remaining.Have you got a figure, your in accounts ,give us an estimate seeing you know everything.
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Just say no kids
 
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