EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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cibaman said:
There's a lot of posturing and jockeying for position going on among EU leaders, a power struggle over what happens next. EU officials such as Junker are gearing up for a push for further integration (not really surprising as that would strengthen their positions). Other voices are more reflective of the increasing Euroscepticism across Europe.

I escape the Federalists will make a concerted effort to create a fiscal union for Eurozone countries. Which will fail.
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and that is why the UK will never hold any influence in the EU
 
This may have been covered already,but I don't fancy scrolling through all the pages,but if we were to leave,will it effect the Euro rate does anyone know ?
 
dickie davies said:
I've met my MP on many an occasion and the one thing I can say for certain is that he has no influence whatsoever on any big decisions. He is told what is going to happen and which way to vote
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I'm not surprised.

This is a flaw with our democratic process though. If people cared enough, it would be possible to change it, but it would be very difficult and time-consuming to do so.
 
InMyLifetime-BaconChops said:
I shall be voting Out today. I urge you all to do the same.
fff
We have heard an astonishing amount of ugly rhetoric and sheer nonsense in this debate. Both sides have largely been full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Brexit will not open up a glorious new era of peculiarly shaped bananas and curvaceous cucumbers either. Nor, conversely, will it result in Armageddon, or reduce us to Zimbabwe-style economics, trundling wheelbarrows full of fifties into the shops to buy half a loaf.

I’ve genuinely been torn on this referendum, but I cannot get away from the fact that the EU is a profoundly undemocratic institution - everything else is beside the point. As Tony Benn so memorably put it, it is better to have a bad Parliament than a good King. This is a political union so opaque in its dealings it would not even pass its own standards for EU entry.

I am not a racist, a bigot or a xenophobe - I simply believe the democratic principle to be of the most paramount importance. Whatever the flaws in our own parliamentary system, we have a group of lawmakers elected by the people, scrutinised by the people and ultimately kicked out by the people when they screw up. How do I seek to dethrone Jean-Claude Juncker? Who voted for Van Rompuy? If we cannot hold the EU to such a democratic standard - and if the EU is unreformable, as Juncker confirmed today (along with forty years of experience inside) - to vote Remain would be to defend the utterly indefensible.
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InMyLifetime-BaconChops said:
I shall be voting Out today. I urge you all to do the same.

We have heard an astonishing amount of ugly rhetoric and sheer nonsense in this debate. Both sides have largely been full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Brexit will not open up a glorious new era of peculiarly shaped bananas and curvaceous cucumbers either. Nor, conversely, will it result in Armageddon, or reduce us to Zimbabwe-style economics, trundling wheelbarrows full of fifties into the shops to buy half a loaf.

I’ve genuinely been torn on this referendum, but I cannot get away from the fact that the EU is a profoundly undemocratic institution - everything else is beside the point. As Tony Benn so memorably put it, it is better to have a bad Parliament than a good King. This is a political union so opaque in its dealings it would not even pass its own standards for EU entry.

I am not a racist, a bigot or a xenophobe - I simply believe the democratic principle to be of the most paramount importance. Whatever the flaws in our own parliamentary system, we have a group of lawmakers elected by the people, scrutinised by the people and ultimately kicked out by the people when they screw up. How do I seek to dethrone Jean-Claude Juncker? Who voted for Van Rompuy? If we cannot hold the EU to such a democratic standard - and if the EU is unreformable, as Juncker confirmed today (along with forty years of experience inside) - to vote Remain would be to defend the utterly indefensible.
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Very well put....... I voted out weeks ago, I'm hoping others have done the same.......
 
Just voted out.

Scotland is an interesting one, however, as some posts have suggested they will cede a four million voting block to remain?

Not so sure, based on the referendum up there, at least half of that number wanted to remain part of Great Britain for a reason.

If the UKIP numbers of 4m from General Election are correct, coupled with a supposed 20 per cent of the electorate in Wales/N.I, then it might be closer to a 7/8m headstart?

My mum and dad have voted Labour all their lives and have voted out.

It would seem the Labour heartlands hold the key.
 
I have voted

Against
Bigotry, racism, xenophobia, narrow mindedness, backward looking, hatred, ignorance and lies
And for
Securing my kids future, peace, compassion, fraternity, business, honesty and hope

I voted remain.
 
dickie davies said:
The forecasts are that the pound will initially fall vs the Euro

What people fail to mention is that about six years ago it was pretty much 1 for 1
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Yes but I also remember it used to be around 1.78 or somert as well,we will probably end up staying in anyway,but I thought I'd ask,being as I'm off to Spain in 3 week ,and every cent counts towards my beer token allowances
 
dickie davies said:
I've met my MP on many an occasion and the one thing I can say for certain is that he has no influence whatsoever on any big decisions. He is told what is going to happen and which way to vote
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What a weasel.
Vote him out.
My Ex MP was told he would never hold senior office because he consistently refused to take the whip.
 
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