EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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KnaresboroughBlue said:
There's no level playing field at present. EU citizens have unrestricted access, citizens from other countries have to jump through various immigration hoops. I'd like to see the same entry criteria for all people, regardless of nationality.
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That is not attainable under a points system, one criteria of which is (quite rightly) going to revolve around English skills. I favour a points system but I don't pretend it's a fair and democratic way to do things and I certainly don't think it's worth risking our economic security to get it.
 
Daz_Blue said:
t these LITTLE ENGLANDERS ....

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that has everything to do with disenfrachised communities and polocies they believe are vehemently wrong and nothing to do with the EU. Being outside of the EU will only allow us to control what is currently legal immigration Poles, Estonians French Spanish etc. It has nothing to do with Afghani/Pakistani/Somali etc immigration. I'll really start seriously questioning your lack of intelligence if you believe these people will suddenly cease their attempts to come to Britain.
 
Leto said:
Make sure you take your own pen to vote. DO NOT TRUST PENCILS! They will do everything they can to fix this vote. The only reason they have not bumped off Boris and Nigel is because they have too much dirt on Dave and Co that would be released if they met untimely ends.
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Why not take a purple crayon, then they can tell you are fucking fruit loop!
 
GaudinoMotors said:
Short term (alleged) pain for long term gain - voting Brexit and showing confidence in ourselves as a nation to stand on our own two feet. The lack of self belief and short termism verging on cowardice has been astonishing.
A once in a lifetime opportunity to back Britain against those who seek to hold us back will probably be missed, giving "carte blanche" for unelected faceless beareuacrats to feel vindicated.
Same old same old.
I maybe would have voted remain if Cameron had actually negotiated properly and got meaningful legal concessions and promises, instead of some ridiculous "Time Teamesque" flit around European Capitals for the cameras.
The whole thing needs disamntling and starting from scratch - which would be possible with a protest Brexit victory as others would inevitably follow - but I fear that fear itself will mean we will tow the line.
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You're a petty small-minded man, you really are.






















Only joking. I like you.
 
bluemoonmatt said:
that has everything to do with disenfrachised communities and polocies they believe are vehemently wrong and nothing to do with the EU. Being outside of the EU will only allow us to control what is currently legal immigration Poles, Estonians French Spanish etc. It has nothing to do with Afghani/Pakistani/Somali etc immigration. I'll really start seriously questioning your lack of intelligence if you believe these people will suddenly cease their attempts to come to Britain.
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So with a points based system Abu Hamza would walk in eh ?
 
And in the meantime, according to analysts, the French economy is failing badly. A Leave vote would not go down too well at all. Remain and prop the fuckers up or Leave and let the fuckers flounder. Hmmmmmmmmm?
 
waspish said:
If the remain vote wins will ukip still peddle the we will get out of Europe?!

Or is this vote where ever it goes means no more eu or no more voting for out?
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A referendum hasn't stopped the SNP and their aim for Scottish independence, so the answer to your question is no
If it is a very close result to remain, this issue is not ever going to go away
 
Daz_Blue said:


I certainly am .......and so is my sister ( Now in Cyprus ) my brother ( Now in Australia ) and up until he died in 2009 my dad ( Here in USA with me )

Britain was once a country where everyone could live together, people of mixed races lived in harmony....not now, when people are allowed to spew hate in the street from outside mosques saying death to Britain, America etc and being allowed to burn flags ( union jack ) then the place has become a joke....those same people burning the flag and calling for Jihad's then go and pick up their child/housing benefit payments from the post office ..... as I said 15 years ago Britain was a good multi cultural society ...not now and as I have already said... you are correct THANK FUCK I LEFT.
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Do you mean these days....

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KenTheLandlord said:
Jean-Claude Juncker was voted in by the European Parliament who are in turn made up of the MEPs that you are eligible to vote for. He has a term for 5 years and then goes. He was voted in Nov 2014. Arguably more democratic than the positioning of Cameron (whose leadership of the tories was a private ballot) and who i have never voted for and yet is making decisions for me.
In fact people who want him out but live in areas that have high tory support, or even his own constituency, will never get the chance, so much for British democracy. You cannot dethrone Cameron.

van Rompuy is the ex leader of the European Council, now run by Donald Tusk. The council is separate from the EU. He had his own advisors or in British terms a cabinet. His position is also rotated hence Donald Tusk now doing the job. He was voted in by the European council who were the heads of state. Again, those heads of state are voted for by you.

So, as the democratic principle is of paramount importance to you, you can rest easy knowing that your vote is in there, somewhere, just like everyone elses, including those that have different views from you, but the principle stands.

To vote Remain is the democratic right of anyone, to call it indefensible is to argue against democracy.
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Is this the same EU that fucked off the democratically elected leaders of Greece and Italy because they didn't like the leaders that the citizens of those countries had chosen democratically?
 
EalingBlue2 said:
so back it all the money today on market and betting is in, if that's true you could be rich
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So, you think a working class person on a low wage/long hours job has enough spare money laying around to be able to place a bet in the first place?

How nice it must be for you.
 
KenTheLandlord said:
Jean-Claude Juncker was voted in by the European Parliament who are in turn made up of the MEPs that you are eligible to vote for. He has a term for 5 years and then goes. He was voted in Nov 2014. Arguably more democratic than the positioning of Cameron (whose leadership of the tories was a private ballot) and who i have never voted for and yet is making decisions for me.
In fact people who want him out but live in areas that have high tory support, or even his own constituency, will never get the chance, so much for British democracy. You cannot dethrone Cameron.

van Rompuy is the ex leader of the European Council, now run by Donald Tusk. The council is separate from the EU. He had his own advisors or in British terms a cabinet. His position is also rotated hence Donald Tusk now doing the job. He was voted in by the European council who were the heads of state. Again, those heads of state are voted for by you.

So, as the democratic principle is of paramount importance to you, you can rest easy knowing that your vote is in there, somewhere, just like everyone elses, including those that have different views from you, but the principle stands.

To vote Remain is the democratic right of anyone, to call it indefensible is to argue against democracy.
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Right so the EU have two opposition parties and produce two manifestos every five years do they.
 
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