EU referendum

[MillionMilesAway]

Having pictures don't meant that the words written are the truth.

Urgh. I'd like to apologise for the failure to correct "don't" to "doesn't".

 

[Robanompivenov]

Seriously? Don't know, but there won't be much point after 10pm.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3589474/The-London-car-park-camp-homeless-migrants-live.html

There's not much point now, you're boring everyone.

 

[Manc in London]

Is that what she told you?.....

She's only 7. Saying that, at the weekend I found around 8 vitamin sweets under the sofa at the weekend. The crafty get has been pretending to eat them but has been hiding them.

 

[mcfc1632]

Ken, I'm fighting a losing battle here. It is so blatantly not the same I'm genuinely astonished that you can't see the difference. So you voted for Afzal Khan representing labour as MEP.

When you voted for him, what EU policies was he promising to implement if elected as the MEP in the EU parliament and under which party in the EU were those policies going to be Implemented?

I suspect the answer is you had no idea because those laws are conceived by the EU commission behind closed doors and then passed to those MEPs to be approved, effectively waved through.

How can people not know that this is how it works - only the commission can 'initiate' and then the MEPs essentially 'endorse' - with much lobbying done beforehand to ensure smooth passage.

What level of control is that for the UK citizens?

 

[YPhrunts]

There's not much point now, you're boring everyone.

And you speak for the whole forum? No wonder you like the diktats coming out of Brussels.

 

[masterwig]

I hope that if remain wins we can draw a line in the sand and move on and crack on with running the country. The referendum has been a massive distraction and focus point and if we allow post-result squabbling to dominate we are in danger of having wasted a full parliamentary term, especially if a Tory leadership contest follows in the wake of the result.

It may have cost him the last election but one of the things I agreed with Ed Milliband on was than an in/out EU referendum was not a priority for the country.

 

[Robanompivenov]

And you speak for the whole forum? No wonder you like the diktats coming out of Brussels.

My Remain vote is in no way an endorsement of Brussells nor the EU, nor is it one of Cameron and most of the Remain campaigners. Dangerous assumption to make, but a predicatable one.

 

[YPhrunts]

I hope that if remain wins we can draw a line in the sand and move on and crack on with running the country. The referendum has been a massive distraction and focus point and if we allow post-result squabbling to dominate we are in danger of having wasted a full parliamentary term, especially if a Tory leadership contest follows in the wake of the result.

It may have cost him the last election but one of the things I agreed with Ed Milliband on was than an in/out EU referendum was not a priority for the country.

It will have to be run as best it can for the following Tory term. But at the end of that it will be seismic, absolutely seismic.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

It's madness, because we always have pencils in the ballot box.

Which probably explains why the polls got the last election so wrong.

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[marco]

done and dusted - OUT

 

[YPhrunts]

My Remain vote is in no way an endorsement of Brussells nor the EU, nor is it one of Cameron and most of the Remain campaigners. Dangerous assumption to make, but a predicatable one.

Without a detailed explanation it was the only one to make.

 

[geoff clipp]

I bet they don't have this in Switzerland do they.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3589474/The-London-car-park-camp-homeless-migrants-live.html
Nice of you to want this to grow in the UK from your detached position in Baden.

Well I voted remain and I don't live in Baden. In fact live less than one mile from that retail park and use it regularly. Maybe you should shift this fixation you seem to have with this particular story onto something that more directly affects yourself.

 

[manctheknife]

I hope that if remain wins we can draw a line in the sand and move on and crack on with running the country. The referendum has been a massive distraction and focus point and if we allow post-result squabbling to dominate we are in danger of having wasted a full parliamentary term, especially if a Tory leadership contest follows in the wake of the result.

It may have cost him the last election but one of the things I agreed with Ed Milliband on was than an in/out EU referendum was not a priority for the country.

It was never, ever going to go away without a referendum. And the least that has happened, even if you just read these pages, is that people know a damn sight more about the machinations of Europe than they did.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I like to think I'm a fairly intelligent person and I'm still taking a punt, hazarding a guess, at what's the best decision to make.

I like to think you're a fairly intelligent person as well Matty.

Unfortunately I know you.


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[Manc in London]

Without a detailed explanation it was the only one to make.

That's as ridiculous as saying that all Brexiters are racist (I do not believe that is the case).

 

[argyle]

I bet they don't have this in Switzerland do they.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3589474/The-London-car-park-camp-homeless-migrants-live.html
Nice of you to want this to grow in the UK from your detached position in Baden.

A quick google of the headline of that article shows it's been passed around the Infidel (National Front), BNP and Stormfront websites.

Not saying you got it from there but if you're using it to make a point be careful you're using material that known racist sites use.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

My Remain vote is in no way an endorsement of Brussells nor the EU, nor is it one of Cameron and most of the Remain campaigners. Dangerous assumption to make, but a predicatable one.

That seems to have been default opinion of Vote Leave (not necessarily posters here).

 

[andyhinch]

I'm guessing all the immigrants already here are voting leave to stop immigrants coming over stealing their jobs.

 

[YPhrunts]

Well I voted remain and I don't live in Baden. In fact live less than one mile from that retail park and use it regularly. Maybe you should shift this fixation you seem to have with this particular story onto something that more directly affects yourself.

I could go down and take some pictures of our very own version of what you see in the Mail article. I could write you an account (already have a shortened version) but somebody would accuse me of photoshopping the images or lying about the fact that they dump tons of tree and hedge cuttings on council owned land, cause smoke hazards with bonfires trying to burn their rubbish etc. Where do you think the people who don't fit the governments official migration figures go? They don't just disappear. And I take it that as you live near to this group reported in the Mail and seem to accept their presence that you have maybe used their services? Cash in hand, No questions asked?

 

[Dogtanian]

Still undecided, I like the concept of the EU I like the freedom it gives but I don't like the unelected officials or president, i worry if I vote in then will the influx from Europe hinder my sons chances of good employment and if I vote out am I hindering my sons options and chances, if I still can't decide by the time I get home then I am just not going to vote