EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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malg said:
Just voted, and done the yougov exit poll on the way out. The vast majority I've spoken to at work is voting out, but we'll definitely remain. The reason I think we'll remain is fear. The Jocks voted to stay in the union due to the fear of going it alone, and I think the country will do the same with this vote - scared of change. Also, the Remain camp done a decent job of playing the racism card against the other side. Just like 'It's a Knockout' they waited until right at the end, then came out with the racism card. Fair play!
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they only played the racism card because a lot of the leave campaigning was racist.
if you dont want to be called a racist, dont say racist things
 
Not sure I fully understand why having a points system like in Oz to ensure immigration has a positive benefit to the country is racist
 
KenTheLandlord said:
Jean-Claude Juncker was voted in by the European Parliament who are in turn made up of the MEPs that you are eligible to vote for. He has a term for 5 years and then goes. He was voted in Nov 2014. Arguably more democratic than the positioning of Cameron (whose leadership of the tories was a private ballot) and who i have never voted for and yet is making decisions for me.
In fact people who want him out but live in areas that have high tory support, or even his own constituency, will never get the chance, so much for British democracy. You cannot dethrone Cameron.

van Rompuy is the ex leader of the European Council, now run by Donald Tusk. The council is separate from the EU. He had his own advisors or in British terms a cabinet. His position is also rotated hence Donald Tusk now doing the job. He was voted in by the European council who were the heads of state. Again, those heads of state are voted for by you.

So, as the democratic principle is of paramount importance to you, you can rest easy knowing that your vote is in there, somewhere, just like everyone elses, including those that have different views from you, but the principle stands.

To vote Remain is the democratic right of anyone, to call it indefensible is to argue against democracy.
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Chev Chelios said:
When will the results be in later tonight or tomorrow morning?
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Start at 10pm ish. should be clear by 3/4am. Finalised at 8amish I think.
 
BlueMojito said:
Not sure I fully understand why having a points system like in Oz to ensure immigration has a positive benefit to the country is racist
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Because that's treating everyone the same. Remainers would prefer to treat Europeans differently to the rest of the world. And it's supposedly the leavers that are racist!
 
That's the answer to everything in the politicallycorrect UK now it's racist so we all have to shit ourselves and condemned whoever said something weather they are right or wrong
 
Should be a nice Remain victory in the end I think.

5%+ winning margin I would have thought.

Hopefully not too much crying from the losing side.
 
ManCityX said:
Should be a nice Remain victory in the end I think.

5%+ winning margin I would have thought.

Hopefully not too much crying from the losing side.
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I hope you're wrong on the result (but suspect you'll be right) but it wouldn't bother me a great deal either way. Things will just go along as they have done. Nothing to get too upset about.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
Because that's treating everyone the same. Remainers would prefer to treat Europeans differently to the rest of the world. And it's supposedly the leavers that are racist!
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It's a good point that. One rule for EU citizens who want to move over here and an altogether stricter one for non-EU citizens. If that isn't discriminatory I don't know what is!
 
ManCityX said:
Should be a nice Remain victory in the end I think.

5%+ winning margin I would have thought.

Hopefully not too much crying from the losing side.
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It's an interesting one. In theory there should be complaining, and Cameron would do his speech saying the voice of 45% of the voters have been heard and he'll change stuff etc like he did after the Scottish Referendum, however it's quite clear he can't do anything as there won't be any changes regarding the EU and our relationship (except the "deals" he agreed in February).

So I reckon it will all be quite subdued, life will go on, however there will be significant complaining, but will it achieve anything, no.
 
M18CTID said:
It's a good point that. One rule for EU citizens who want to move over here and an altogether stricter one for non-EU citizens. If that isn't discriminatory I don't know what is!
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A stupid argument, but if you want to take it seriously....

......its less discriminatory than the leave position, only giving the right for uk citizens to live in the UK and a different rule for everyone else.
Thats an extra 660 million discriminated against by the leavers.
 
InMyLifetime-BaconChops said:
It's an interesting one. In theory there should be complaining, and Cameron would do his speech saying the voice of 45% of the voters have been heard and he'll change stuff etc like he did after the Scottish Referendum, however it's quite clear he can't do anything as there won't be any changes regarding the EU and our relationship (except the "deals" he agreed in February).

So I reckon it will all be quite subdued, life will go on, however there will be significant complaining, but will it achieve anything, no.
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I genuinely don't think what he's agreed and promised to us will get through the European Parliament.
 
Just back from the polling station and can honestly say that I've never seen one as busy. No sign of voter apathy in my area.
 
pirate said:
A stupid argument, but if you want to take it seriously....

......its less discriminatory than the leave position, only giving the right for uk citizens to live in the UK and a different rule for everyone else.
Thats an extra 660 million discriminated against by the leavers.
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It's treating all prospective immigrants the same.
 
KenTheLandlord said:
Even worse then, we have a dictatorship that can only be changed every 5 years, even the EU listens to all sides.
Whichever way you look at it, it is grim for the UK system and voter. I'll stick with the EU, slow as it maybe.
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I take it you feel disenfranchised in the UK?
 
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