European elections results

[BobKowalski]

Of total votes cast so far:
LD+CUK+Green+SNP+PC>TBP+UKIP
Total unequivocal Remain vote = 40.4%
Total unequivocal Leave vote = 34.9%
It’s a bigger unequivocal Remain margin than I thought would happen TBH.
Unfortunately it all proves nothing as both sides will interpret the Lab+Con votes to suit their own arguments.

Yep I thought it would be a slight margin for Leave so delighted with it. Labour figures are already calling for the party to go full Remain. Tories will become UKIP.

 

[Metal Biker]

Brexit Party: 5,244,893
Lib Dems: 3,366,373
Labour: 2,346,441
Greens: 2,010,328
Conservatives: 1,510,874
UKIP: 549,159
CHUK: 571,716
SNP: 590,947

 

[Metal Biker]

Yeah but this is undemocratic - the electorate voted Leave 52/48 - respect the democratic will man....

Add Cons/Lab to the Leave side, as both parties are still publicly committed to delivering leave (albeit not via no deal)

It's 58.1% on the side of leaving the EU, not remaining.

 

[west didsblue]

Yep I thought it would be a slight margin for Leave so delighted with it. Labour figures are already calling for the party to go full Remain. Tories will become UKIP.

Too late for Labour. If they’d said that before the vote then their voters could have been counted as Remainers. As it is, nobody knows.

 

[BobKowalski]

Brexit Party: 5,244,893
Lib Dems: 3,366,373
Labour: 2,346,441
Greens: 2,010,328
Conservatives: 1,510,874
UKIP: 549,159
CHUK: 571,716
SNP: 590,947

You missed Plaid Cymru.

You want to add up the unambigous Remain vote vs the unambiguous Leave vote? Happy to do it but I’ll give you first refusal. Top tip. You exclude Tory and Labour.

 

[Metal Biker]

Yeah but this is undemocratic - the electorate voted Leave 52/48 - respect the democratic will man....

And if goals outside the box counted an extra point...

 

[Vic]

Brexit nail North West. By a fucking landslide.

31% and 3 seats out of 8 is not a landslide of any sort.

BP will be the largest party. They are not "romping" it (Mark Francois) nor is it a landslide. Get a grip.

 

[west didsblue]

Add Cons/Lab to the Leave side, as both parties are still publicly committed to delivering leave (albeit not via no deal)

It's 58.1% on the side of leaving the EU, not remaining.

Or add Lab/Con votes to Remain as it’s clear that all Lab/Con Leave voters have switched to TBP and it becomes 65% on the side of Remaining.
Pointless argument from either side but no surprise it’s being made.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Brexit Party: 5,244,893
Lib Dems: 3,366,373
Labour: 2,346,441
Greens: 2,010,328
Conservatives: 1,510,874
UKIP: 549,159
CHUK: 571,716
SNP: 590,947

What's the population of the UK?

Which side of the debate were more motivated to vote?

Which of the parties only ran on one mandate?

Labour go remain and you won't get your vengeance for Gorton Tub.

 

[Metal Biker]

You missed Plaid Cymru.

You want to add up the unambigous Remain vote vs the unambiguous Leave vote? Happy to do it but I’ll give you first refusal. Top tip. You exclude Tory and Labour.

Ah yes, their 163,000. Makes all the difference...

You are aware that the Green vote isn't the same level of remain as the Lib Dems are. They want reform in the EU and have plenty of issues about membership. Leave compromisers have voted for them, and in another referendum, those same leave Green voters would still vote leave. You're excluding them. Only a vote for the Lib Dems and SNP can be counted as a pure remain vote.

A pure hard leave vote, 5.8m. A pure remain vote. 5.8m. That's the long and short of it. And that's by assuming all Green votes are for remain, they aren't, as I explained earlier this week, that some leavers have considered Green because, if brexit does get overturned, we want reformers in the EuParl, not EU sycophants. Everything else is in the realm of compromise. There is no mandate or call for a 2nd referendum.

People want a compromise.