European elections results

The electorate won’t know so it’s tough to really tell.
Indeed, which is why i'm not getting giddy about tonights results and why it's laughable others are doing a RAWK about the remain groups.

All i've seen tonight is that the two main parties have been decimated, leave voters are still equally as strong in voice as the remainers, but mostly the story of the night is that the public are apathetic about the whole thing, and we want a compromise that satisfies both sides of the debate.
 
The only conclusion everyone can agree is that Labour and the Conservatives are the big losers.
We can interpret the overall mood of the nation in any way we want and no one can prove or disprove it.
My own interpretation is that there is practically a two thirds majority for no hard Brexit.
40% definitely want no Brexit.
35% would be happy with No Deal.
25% who knows?
 
Add Cons/Lab to the Leave side, as both parties are still publicly committed to delivering leave (albeit not via no deal)

It's 58.1% on the side of leaving the EU, not remaining.
The Labour party isn't committed to delivering Leave. That's just Corbyn.

Too late for Labour. If they’d said that before the vote then their voters could have been counted as Remainers. As it is, nobody knows.
The Brexit Party said Labour was now a Remain party. And given most Labour voters voted Remain in 2016 and a lot of their Leave voters will have gone to the BP it must be fair to assume most of those voting Labour in this election must be for remaining (or at least for a 2nd ref which is now the default policy).
 
Too late for Labour. If they’d said that before the vote then their voters could have been counted as Remainers. As it is, nobody knows.

Agreed for this election but I meant going forward where it is likely the next general election will be Brexit v Remain. If the Tories aren’t the Brexit party they are finished. If Labour isn’t the remain party they are screwed. Both have to accept that they are seeking a different coalition of voters and seats. First to adapt survives.
 
31% and 3 seats out of 8 is not a landslide of any sort.

BP will be the largest party. They are not "romping" it (Mark Francois) nor is it a landslide. Get a grip.
Regrettably, the only landslide is for the Couldn't Give a Fuck Party with around 63%.

In terms of those who do give a fuck the country is basically split down the middle. How the HoC sorts that mess out without a 2nd ref I have no idea.
 
Indeed, which is why i'm not getting giddy about tonights results and why it's laughable others are doing a RAWK about the remain groups.

All i've seen tonight is that the two main parties have been decimated, leave voters are still equally as strong in voice as the remainers, but mostly the story of the night is that the public are apathetic about the whole thing, and we want a compromise that satisfies both sides of the debate.

To be honest mate I’m pissed out of my head and I’ve just stuck the White Album on.

I agree about the last bit though :-)
 
Regrettably, the only landslide is for the Couldn't Give a Fuck Party with around 63%.

In terms of those who do give a fuck the country is basically split down the middle. How the HoC sorts that mess out without a 2nd ref I have no idea.
2nd ref then?
Only 35% definitely don’t want one.
 
Ah yes, their 163,000. Makes all the difference...

You are aware that the Green vote isn't the same level of remain as the Lib Dems are. They want reform in the EU and have plenty of issues about membership. Leave compromisers have voted for them, and in another referendum, those same leave Green voters would still vote leave. You're excluding them. Only a vote for the Lib Dems and SNP can be counted as a pure remain vote.

A pure hard leave vote, 5.8m. A pure remain vote. 5.8m. That's the long and short of it. And that's by assuming all Green votes are for remain, they aren't, as I explained earlier this week, that some leavers have considered Green because, if brexit does get overturned, we want reformers in the EuParl, not EU sycophants. Everything else is in the realm of compromise. There is no mandate or call for a 2nd referendum.

People want a compromise.
You need to remove all the EU nationals from that to have an idea of the winning Brexit margin.
 
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