European Super League | ECJ rule that UEFA and FIFA acted unlawfully in blocking Super League (p 29)

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

This is what the Super league is proposing seems the game load would increase

Yeah, did the quick math before

So a quick calc of this puts it at 76 max (57 min) games a season. (69/49 in the 2024 Swiss CL format)

Prem - 38 (38)
Carabao - 6 (1)
FA Cup - 6 (1)
Community - 1 (0)
Super League - 17 (14)
Super Cup - 1 (0)
Club World Cup - 7 (3)

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

This SL just sounds like the merging of the top teams in different leagues.

If English and German teams don’t get involved, then it’ll be clubs like Celtic, Ranger, Ajax etc that will jump at this more than teams in decent domestic leagues.

How many times will take for Lazio vs Atletico type games to get boring?

By the end of the first game.
It will be utter shit.
If we go near it I'll never watch a football game again

 

[Beaker]

Exactly. And as we know, if you follow the money, you will eventually find Soriano…

Very eloquently and correctly put.

 

[bluemoon32]

If the day ever comes that City fully leave English football to join a European super league full time, then that's the day i walk away from my beloved club.
I want to play Palace, Burnley, Brentford, Fulham or in the future Ipswich, Sunderland or Wrexham, i couldn't give a shit about regular games against Barcelona, Real Madrid or fucking PSG.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

By the end of the first game.
It will be utter shit.
If we go near it I'll never watch a football game again

I’d be the same, or I’d ignore the SL completely.

I’d assume that City would never get relegated from it, so we’d use the PL to be our EDS side. I could get behind that side.

 

[Chi-town blues]

I'm wondering about the logistics of the 'free to view' aspect of the proposal.

Is it going to be like a free streaming service, where the viewer is inundated with adverts every 5 minutes in order to pay for it?

Also on the topic of “view “ if given a choice which team would football fans globally watch the most ?
1- rags and dips with antonio and darwin
2- city with haaland , jack , kdb etc etc

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Yeah, did the quick math before

So a quick calc of this puts it at 76 max (57 min) games a season. (69/49 in the 2024 Swiss CL format)

Prem - 38 (38)
Carabao - 6 (1)
FA Cup - 6 (1)
Community - 1 (0)
Super League - 17 (14)
Super Cup - 1 (0)
Club World Cup - 7 (3)

*maths

 

[HelloCity]

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

*maths

No wonder people have a preconception that the yanks are thick.

Imagine only learning one bit of math.

 

[Blue_Lightsaber]

All American sport is shit, all about the mighty dollar and profit, the competition is a side show.

American history is full of breakaway/ new leagues to challenge monopolies of old leagues..

For example the National Football League was older and the American Football League was founded but fans didn't like two champions so the superbowl was created to see which team would be true champs.

Same for baseball with National League and American League.

With American owners all over the place.. you can bet your pennies on eventually the ESL and the CL will have a one game winner take all competition after their respective seasons to determine the true European champion.

 

[Chi-town blues]

Will the Premier League FFP 115 changes now be pointless

I’m running out of popcorn hahahaah

 

[Scott mcfc]

This is goin to happen it just is,and if being honest sick to death of our club gettin slated by every fucker,so i am startin to lean with it than against it,uefa fifa premier leauge all corrupt fuckers had enough of lot of em,maybe its actually time

 

[Lavinda Past]

Champions League has a weight to it. Look at Haaland’s comments about it, other players choose it over domestic success and clubs strive to win it.

They’re going to decide against playing in that and instead opt into a contrived, soulless marketing campaign?

No Prem club will touch it with a barge pole after the reaction last time and rightly so. Given clubs like Barca and Real have two motives for it - raising money and bridging the gap - then losing the ability to do the latter if English clubs don’t join just nullifies the whole thing. Fortunately.

Don't kid yourself. Soulless marketing campaign or not, Haaland and Co will 100% follow the money.
They'd be daft not to.

 

[mancityvstoke]

That's me done if that shit ever comes to MCFC.....OK

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Champions of the Star League, you’ll never sing that.

 

[I'm Blue]

If the day ever comes that City fully leave English football to join a European super league full time, then that's the day i walk away from my beloved club.
I want to play Palace, Burnley, Brentford, Fulham or in the future Ipswich, Sunderland or Wrexham, i couldn't give a shit about regular games against Barcelona, Real Madrid or fucking PSG.

I did share your views.
However the likes of ”Palace, Burnley, Fulham, Ipswich, Sunderland and Wrexham” along with the rest would gladly see us kicked out of football or even worse ceasing to exist without giving us a second thought.
So I give less of a shit about what happens to other clubs than I ever have.
Time to put ourselves first and fuck everyone else.
If that’s joining the ESL who knows.
The premier league and UEFA couldn’t give a shit about certain clubs in their competitions.
So fuck them too.

 

[Blackley_Blue]

This is goin to happen it just is,and if being honest sick to death of our club gettin slated by every fucker,so i am startin to lean with it than against it,uefa fifa premier leauge all corrupt fuckers had enough of lot of em,maybe its actually time

You reckon the badmouthing and slating is going to stop with the European red shirts involved in it?

I don't.

 

[ancoats]

Can anybody with more knowledge than me understand the rule stating governing bodies are breaking the rules by stopping clubs from wanting the freedom of moving and trading/playing in another league, SO does this also mean FFP is breaking the rules that stop's clubs from inviting outside investment,

From what I understand, the ruling is saying governing bodies are breaking the law by stopping clubs with unlawfully rules based on the freedom of business, This also must come under the FFP rules being unlawfully by stopping clubs doing business on a level playing field

 

[Corky]

Yeah, did the quick math before

So a quick calc of this puts it at 76 max (57 min) games a season. (69/49 in the 2024 Swiss CL format)

Prem - 38 (38)
Carabao - 6 (1)
FA Cup - 6 (1)
Community - 1 (0)
Super League - 17 (14)
Super Cup - 1 (0)
Club World Cup - 7 (3)

Prem can be 39.

 

[Dribble]

Doesn’t replace domestic leagues and is an open competition that can be qualified for via sporting merit. Free to watch. Owned by the clubs and not corrupted by UEFA or FIFA.

Why are people so against this again?

"Owned by the clubs"?

The G14 will own & control the SL, just like the 20 PL clubs own & control the PL, BUT in reality, it's heavily influenced by the Red Top founding members, ManUre, the Dippers & Arse. Similarly, the SL will be the same, just like Animal Farm.

The SL's central tenet is that the European elite clubs will almost ALWAYS be involved regardless of League position, unless they finish in the bottom 20 of the Blue League & don't qualify through their domestic league position. But how likely is this in reality?

There's three Leagues:

Star - 16 teams in 2 groups of 8

Gold - 16 teams in 2 groups of 8

Blue - 32 teams in 4 groups of 8

In the Star League only the bottom 2 teams are subject to relegation to the Gold League. In the Gold League, the top 2 gain promotion to the Star League, & the bottom 2 are subject to relegation to the Blue League.

In the Blue League, the top 2 gain promotion to the Gold League, & the bottom 20 clubs are subject to relegation from European competition altogether, but based on their domestic league positions, they can reappear in the Blue League the following season.

Only 2 clubs outside of the G14 (City & Chelsea) will qualify for the inaugural SL Star League.

The top four teams in each group in the Star & Gold Leagues qualify for the SL knockout stages.

The top 2 teams from each of the Blue League's 4 Groups also qualify for the SL knockout stages.

It's a complex compromise which near enough ensures the top teams appear & play each other every season in the SL, & only 2 will be threatened by relegation from the Star League, irrespective of their domestic league positions.

Essentially, it wouldn't matter if ManUre finished 7th in the PL. They'd STILL appear in the SL regardless, merely because they're ManUre, so where's this "Based on merit" A22, Real & Barça are blathering on about? It's utter bullshit.

As long as teams finish in the top 4 of the Gold League groups, they STILL qualify for the knockout phase, with a chance to return to the Star League, even if they've been relegated to the Championship domestically.

Taking a global view, the new proposals make it very unlikely the top clubs will ever be without top level European football, unless they keep finishing bottom of the three leagues, & fall down their domestic leagues too.

HOWEVER, how likely is this if they get the riches on offer to the top teams in the SL, & are fully protected from any outside competition by their corrupt & unfair FFP rules?

The top aspiring clubs (like Newcastle) will have the chance to progress to the Star League, but with FFP in place, how long will it be before they can regularly challenge the hegemony of the G14?

The devil's in the small detail, but this format STILL heavily favours the usual suspects as it was always meant to.