Evan Ferguson

[mexico1970]

To be fair, you've just googled him being the most in-form striker in Europe, which he arguably was at that time.

Apart from the season when Ronaldo totally messed up United's play, he's also got progressively better, and scoring 30 goals last season does put him up as one of Europe's best strikers (he scored the 6th most goals in the top leagues, and two of the people above him played in France).

Some of that rubbish was from when Haaland was smashing them in left right and centre, it shouldn't be a surprise that a striker score that many goals with the salary they are on.

I don't know where you are getting your stats from because he is nowhere near 6th on the European list, the point is that he is another overpaid asset at the swamp, I am sure you'll agree.

But he isn't anywhere near the best in Europe.

https://www.worldfootball.net/

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#​	Player		Country	Team	Goals (Penalty)​
1.​	Erling Haaland		Norway	Manchester City	36 (7)​
2.​	Harry Kane		England	Tottenham Hotspur	30 (5)​
3.​	Ivan Toney		England	Brentford FC	20 (6)​
4.​	Mo Salah		Egypt	Liverpool FC	19 (2)​
5.​	Callum Wilson		England	Newcastle United	18 (3)​
6.​	Marcus Rashford		England	Manchester United	17 (0)​
7.​	Gabriel Martinelli		Brazil	Arsenal FC	15 (0)​
​	Martin Ødegaard		Norway	Arsenal FC	15 (0)​

 

[bluenova]

Some of that rubbish was from when Haaland was smashing them in left right and centre, it shouldn't be a surprise that a striker score that many goals with the salary they are on.

But he isn't anywhere near the best in Europe.

https://www.worldfootball.net/

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#​	Player		Country	Team	Goals (Penalty)​
1.​	Erling Haaland		Norway	Manchester City	36 (7)​
2.​	Harry Kane		England	Tottenham Hotspur	30 (5)​
3.​	Ivan Toney		England	Brentford FC	20 (6)​
4.​	Mo Salah		Egypt	Liverpool FC	19 (2)​
5.​	Callum Wilson		England	Newcastle United	18 (3)​
6.​	Marcus Rashford		England	Manchester United	17 (0)​
7.​	Gabriel Martinelli		Brazil	Arsenal FC	15 (0)​
​	Martin Ødegaard		Norway	Arsenal FC	15 (0)​

For a couple of months he did outscore Haaland - post World Cup, he got 16 goals in about the same number of matches, and Haaland scored about 10 in the same period. Clearly his "current form" didn't match Haaland's season long form, but Haaland wasn't quite smashing them in at the time that Rashford was being feted.

Across all competitions, he was 6th across players in the top leagues:

Top 13 players with most goals in 2022-23 season

These players have been on top class form in front of the goal. Here are the top ten players with most goal in 2022-23 in all competitions.

khelnow.com

He's no Haaland, but he is one of the better strikers in Europe, and the articles linked to were two from his manager bigging him up, and one with "on current form" in the headline, which isn't quite as hyperbolic as suggested.

 

[mexico1970]

For a couple of months he did outscore Haaland - post World Cup, he got 16 goals in about the same number of matches, and Haaland scored about 10 in the same period. Clearly his "current form" didn't match Haaland's season long form, but Haaland wasn't quite smashing them in at the time that Rashford was being feted.

Across all competitions, he was 6th across players in the top leagues:

Top 13 players with most goals in 2022-23 season

These players have been on top class form in front of the goal. Here are the top ten players with most goal in 2022-23 in all competitions.

khelnow.com

He's no Haaland, but he is one of the better strikers in Europe, and the articles linked to were two from his manager bigging him up, and one with "on current form" in the headline, which isn't quite as hyperbolic as suggested.

He is nowhere near one of the best strikers in Europe, his stats prove that and the stats aren't only from this year.

SKY were bigging him up as were BT at the time, as I said for £350,000 a week he's a bit on the shit side.

Appearances 243
Goals77

 

[bluenova]

He is nowhere near one of the best strikers in Europe, his stats prove that and the stats aren't only from this year.

SKY were bigging him up as were BT at the time, as I said for £350,000 a week he's a bit on the shit side.

Appearances 243
Goals77

I think maybe we're talking about different things.

You're talking about a time when BT and Sky were bigging him up - I agree that they probably were, because last season he scored 30 goals - the 6th best in Europe - and he scored half of those in a two month period were he was outscoring even Haaland.

Suggesting the claims that he was one of the best in Europe last season by providing his league goals all the way from the start of his career, when he was scoring just a few goals a season and playing lots of games as a sub, does very little. Ronaldo scored just 32 goals in his first 168 games.

So, I never said he was the best 18 year old in Europe, or has been the one of the best for the last half dozen years, I said that last season, and at the time that the articles were referring to, he was one of the best strikers in Europe. I'm happy to stand by that.

I don't mind if you don't like him, but there's no need to broaden the argument beyond what I said.

 

[houraisen]

 

[mexico1970]

I think maybe we're talking about different things.

You're talking about a time when BT and Sky were bigging him up - I agree that they probably were, because last season he scored 30 goals - the 6th best in Europe - and he scored half of those in a two month period were he was outscoring even Haaland.

Suggesting the claims that he was one of the best in Europe last season by providing his league goals all the way from the start of his career, when he was scoring just a few goals a season and playing lots of games as a sub, does very little. Ronaldo scored just 32 goals in his first 168 games.

So, I never said he was the best 18 year old in Europe, or has been the one of the best for the last half dozen years, I said that last season, and at the time that the articles were referring to, he was one of the best strikers in Europe. I'm happy to stand by that.

I don't mind if you don't like him, but there's no need to broaden the argument beyond what I said.

What I am saying is pretty clear mate, they blow smoke up his arse despite him playing for a side that spent a fortune and he has at best average striking stats.

He's an upcoming prospect in their eyes still ;)

 

[bluesmith]

The query was if that wording meant that friendlies counted. Apparently The Telegraph ran an article about Evan that said they didn't - but it looks as if the segment about his eligibility has been removed. There's still a Sun article floating about that references what The Telegraph published. Everyone else is running with the line that he cannot change.

Non-official means friendlies from what I'm reading, if this is the case it reads pretty clear to me that he doesnt meet the criteria to transfer to England at present.

 

[Blue and true]

Ferguson wouldn't make much sense given we already have The Viking. Only way it happens is if we lose Alvarez or Ferguson proves adept at the playmaker/second striker role in the coming seasons; neither of which scenarios I envisage happening.

Although I admit he looks bona-fide.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

I think maybe we're talking about different things.

You're talking about a time when BT and Sky were bigging him up - I agree that they probably were, because last season he scored 30 goals - the 6th best in Europe - and he scored half of those in a two month period were he was outscoring even Haaland.

Suggesting the claims that he was one of the best in Europe last season by providing his league goals all the way from the start of his career, when he was scoring just a few goals a season and playing lots of games as a sub, does very little. Ronaldo scored just 32 goals in his first 168 games.

So, I never said he was the best 18 year old in Europe, or has been the one of the best for the last half dozen years, I said that last season, and at the time that the articles were referring to, he was one of the best strikers in Europe. I'm happy to stand by that.

I don't mind if you don't like him, but there's no need to broaden the argument beyond what I said.

Nearly all players, especially strikers, play lots of games as a substitute at the start of their careers. Rashford is no different. The big difference is that he plays for one of the golden clubs.

 

[handsofstone]

He's started the season on fire, but last year he was ok without really shining, 6 goals

He's deffo one to keep an eye on, but let's see how many goals he'll get across a full season

The tell of a good striker is once the goals start drying up, which they always do, how does he respond

That'll be the difference between him ending up with titles or being at a club who's aspirations are to chase top 4 or even just to get into the Europa