Everton Thread - 2022/23

[FightLikeAGirl]

You’ve not lived in the football world until your club is relegated, enjoy the ride!

At least nobody can call me a glory hunter now!

 

[bluwes]

The leicester game on Monday. It all comes down to this. If we win then we give ourselves a slight chance. If we lose, then we are gone.

Wishing you the best of luck. Hans Segars says hi

 

[Mick_]

Last night the fans welcomed the team bus. Then they made a noise before the game. They backed the team and let them know they were behind them. Then ......... the players put in another half arsed display. They had no idea, utter clueless. One of the worst displays by an Everton team that I have ever had to sit through and suffer, and I watched us under Mike Walker back in the day.

Where are the goals coming from? We need goals to get points or we are gone. Sadly, I see no way out of this mess now. I hope I am wrong, but we are clearly doomed.

If we drop (more like when) I will be angry, I will hate them. But I will go back and watch them when the new season/league starts. They are my team, they piss me off, but I loves them. Plus, I can always cheer on City for my premier league interest.

One more thing .... Do one Kenwright!

Relegation probably causes you massive problems for so many reasons because your club has been so badly run and that’s not me trying to be a smart arse as we (Newcastle) were run like that but probably not as badly under Ashley. At least that arse didn’t cripple us with debt although I’m sure it felt great for you when you were spending so much cash and thinking that maybe things were going to improve for you.

Newcastle was mainly horrible under Ashley with probably three reasonable seasons. The first was under Pardew even though I thought that he was a chancer who had one lucky season. The other two were promotion seasons after relegation. If I’m honest, I would have been glad to go out of the leagues if we had to in order to get rid of Ashley. I don’t know if it feels like that to you or not but 14 years of Ashley was probably 10 years too many.

I really enjoyed life in the Championship when we were relegated (twice) because we went from losing just about every other week to winning virtually every week. The Championship can be good fun once you get over the snobbery of playing in the Premiership as long as it’s only for one season. If you don’t get straight back up it’s going to be because you’re not winning virtually every week and then the novelty will soon wear off in that case.

You are virtually forced to lose the shite players who put you in that position and you can start again without the players who put you in that position, if you can find buyers for them. You might have to agree to terminate contracts to lose some of your players and that probably doesn’t matter because those players have stunk you club out in the first place.

Getting money into the club to allow you to build a new squad might not be easy as you have the new ground around your neck. It has nothing to do with FFP but the bills still need to be paid unless you mothball it, again, that wouldn’t be ideal as I would imagine that most of the materials have been ordered and are either at the site or somebody is holding them until they’re needed. That could cause problems with storage and potentially parts lying around in the open which were not designed for that, especially with your new ground being so close to water and salty, corrosive, humid air.

I think the problem for Everton will be that the people who run the club will remain and they don’t seem capable of getting e decision right so they could easily bring in players who are not going to get you up. You probably need a couple of players with a good head on them rather than world beaters and a lot of younger hungry players who will fight for everything and will grow with you if/when you get promoted.

You’ve got a premiership academy so you’ll hopefully have players who can come through and get games which will improve them rather than loaning them out for experience. Maybe you can also loan a few from other clubs but you don’t really want to come back up and have to buy at the level Forest did.

I’m not too sure I’d be happy with Dyche as manager if I was you because he’s unlikely to build anything that you’ll get excited watching. Would you want to be another team like Burnley was under him? I don’t think that I would as you’ll likely come back up and sit around the bottom again unless you can take advantage of your new ground and give him better players than he’s had in the past. Maybe my thinking on Dyche is masked because he was held back by a small club but he doesn’t really inspire much confidence in me and I fail to see how he can inspire better players. Who knows?

I think Everton getting relegated goes one of two ways, you will either do well out of it or it will fail spectacularly as I don’t think you have any middle ground. I don’t see how you can go down and come back up in two or three seasons because you probably can’t financially afford to, I could be wrong though.

 

[skiddypants]

That new stadium will look good v Plymouth, Rotherham, Luton, Preston ,

 

[Mick_]

That new stadium will look good v Plymouth, Rotherham, Luton, Preston ,

Can they afford to finish it if they get relegated? They spent £148m on their new stadium in 2021/22 according to that year’s accounts, I doubt they could do that in the Championship. I don't know how and when they pay for it but I would guess that they have staged payments due on completion of certain milestones when they're reached.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Their best hope is a takeover by someone with serious gelt.

Once relegated, they become a cheap and very attractive 'project' for the right man. Say, one of our Sheikh's cousins. They could easily become Merseyside's biggest club with investment.

The danger is they will fall into the hands of some bent spiv.

I reckon they would be a better bet than the rags.
Maybe that's why the Glazers are struggling to sell the scum, as investors have seen a better option.

 

[KearsleyBlue]

The leicester game on Monday. It all comes down to this. If we win then we give ourselves a slight chance. If we lose, then we are gone.

Let's hope you lose then ;-)

 

[halfcenturyup]

I reckon they would be a better bet than the rags.
Maybe that's why the Glazers are struggling to sell the scum, as investors have seen a better option.

I hope that happens. Been saying it all season. Any serious investor should be looking at a return, otherwise he isn't a real investor. He would be, hmmmmm, a sportswasher?

I have always thought 1-2 billion into Everton could get you a debt-free 3-4 billion business in a few years, with a good team, a shiny new stadium and it will put Liverpool firmly in their place. What is not to like?

 

[jimharri]

Huge game coming up for them next week. Fuck up against Leicester and they will be looking down the barrel.

 

[shackattack]

Huge game coming up for them next week. Fuck up against Leicester and they will be looking down the barrel.

Problem is we are losing all our " must win" games. In a very precarious position, only 6 wins this season and now need possibly 2-3 wins in our last few games. Lose on Monday and can't see us staying up. Putting pressure on ourselves as a win against Fulham the other week would have almost made us safe. It is what is and part of me has accepted our fate now. Even if we did survive the majority of that team would have to go.