Extinction Rebellion

[Rascal]

The irony of an 82 year old who's probably contributed more to 'destroying' (and i use that term loosely) than anyone one he's preaching to, fuck him, he's just as bad as the rest of them, age isn't an excuse.

Maybe the old man has realised what he has done to the planet and changed his beliefs.

Well done to the old fella, age is no barrier to changing ones mind.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I think these canutes need to be dealt with in a similar mannner to the kind of shit they are doling out! Like for like can't be anathema to them. If they want to board the top of a tube train I'd swap it for a Stobart truck whizzing down the M1. If they want to glue themselves to summat I'd use the central reservation of the M4!

Indeed they should. I'd love it if the arsehole who was dragged off the top of the train arrived home nursing
his bruises to find it sprayed with cowshit.

They are certainly getting the attention of you all.

Job done, you are all noticing it.

Well yes, that's true Rasc, but where this so called fillip to their cause falls is the fact that the vast majority, although
concerned with climate change, do not like being targeted by fanatics who, by demanding action within 5 years,
have destroyed their credibility. Then, when your intentions are to actively prevent ordinary working folk from feeding their
families, or getting to hospital, the attention is all negative, which it most certainly is now. Most people have, and still are,
asking why these people never attempt to disrupt or demand from the major contributors, China and India, and
they never get an answer, this is where their cause falls into the thorough fucking nuisance position, and although they're getting
publicity, it's now all bad publicity.

 

[Rascal]

He wouldn't dare do that kind of shit in Saudi though. He should also be charged with criminal damage and public order offences.

Are you advocating Saudi Arabian style justice in the UK then?

Strange how quickly people become all authoritarian when they don't understand why people are doing things like ER are.

The culture of outrage, you are angry and you don't know why, so you want an 82 year old man to have his hands chopped off. That anger and outrage is fuelled (no pun intended) by those with vested interests in making money from exploiting planetary resources for personal gain. Why are you not advocating for Saudi Arabian style justice to those people?

 

[Dubai Blue]

They are certainly getting the attention of you all.

Job done, you are all noticing it.

Unfortunately, with stunts like this, they're bringing attention to their behaviour, not their cause.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

Its worked though, if that what it takes to get your attention it shows how willing they are to fight for their cause.

Well done to them for being so passionate in their beliefs.

pmsl

 

[Banned Tosspot]

What a charming post.

A Bluemoon poster advocating Saudi Arabian style justice towards an 82 year old man.

If you're good enough, you're old enough.

 

[Rascal]

Indeed they should. I'd love it if the arsehole who was dragged off the top of the train arrived home nursing
his bruises to find it sprayed with cowshit.

Well yes, that's true Rasc, but where this so called fillip to their cause falls is the fact that the vast majority, although
concerned with climate change, do not like being targeted by fanatics who, by demanding action within 5 years,
have destroyed their credibility. Then, when your intentions are to actively prevent ordinary working folk from feeding their
families, or getting to hospital, the attention is all negative, which it most certainly is now. Most people have, and still are,
asking why these people never attempt to disrupt or demand from the major contributors, China and India, and
they never get an answer, this is where their cause falls into the thorough fucking nuisance position, and although they're getting
publicity, it's now all bad publicity.

I aint justifying there actions AC, but I see the rationale behind them. A movement has to start somewhere and by getting their message out whether that be positive or negative it does challenge perceptions. By calling for extreme measures, it means they would be happy with less extreme measures, as it is often pointed out in the Brexit thread, its a negotiation of sorts.

The movement will either fizzle out and die or it will spread and eventually it will reach China, India and other major contributors, but do you not think that you know China and India are major contributors means there message is working on a subliminal level. Because I didn't know they were, I do now.

 

[Rascal]

Unfortunately, with stunts like this, they're bringing attention to their behaviour, not their cause.

As Phineas T. Barnum, the 19th century American showman and circus owner said, bad publicity is better than no publicity.

 

[bluemooners09]

As Phineas T. Barnum, the 19th century American showman and circus owner said, bad publicity is better than no publicity.

It sent a clear message to the masses. If some idiot purposely gets in your way give him a good slapping.

 

[Dubai Blue]

As Phineas T. Barnum, the 19th century American showman and circus owner said, bad publicity is better than no publicity.

Hmmm, we'll see. I suspect in this case it will have been a massive own goal. Which would be a shame, as it's a very legitimate cause; I just don't agree with the way some are choosing to go about it.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

One was an 82 year who glued his hands to the side of the train, You're actually in favour of these folk getting beat up off a gang of commuters?

I've just seen that video he's dragged off then set upon.

So let me be clear..

Planes - the devil
Private cars - the devil
Public transport - also now the devil?

So how are ordinary working people supposed to get to their place of work?

Leave aside the fact that co2 is an entirely natural substance that has been around in varying quantities for circa 8bn years, leave aside the fact that the climate has always and constantly changed for every one of those 8bn years, leave aside the fact that "man made" co2 accounts for a minute percentage of total co2 in the atmosphere and that if ALL aviation ceased immediately co2 levels would drop by a massive 0.03%. leave aside the arrogant view that ordinary people living in warm, safe homes for approx 130 years has put a planet which has survived very nicely thank you for 8bn years in danger of being destroyed to the point of Armageddon , what exactly has mass public transport done wrong?

The whole XR lot are middle class, affluent, doing-very-nicely-thank-you liberals who's world viewpoint can be boiled down to "the world would be a better place if there were less plebs in it".

Climate change is an establishment con. A tax on the air we breathe.

Why aren't they gluing themselves to the chinese or Indian embassies?

 

[blueinsa]

What a charming post.

A Bluemoon poster advocating Saudi Arabian style justice towards an 82 year old man.

That's fuck all.

If he was a brexit voter some on here would be proclaiming his oncoming death so that his vote is one less they dont like.

lets not get all offended again and the 82 year old wasn't subjected to Saudi Arabian style justice, just the twat who felt the need to try and kick someone in the head first.

 

[inbetween]

That's fuck all.

If he was a brexit voter some on here would be proclaiming his oncoming death so that his vote is one less they dont like.

lets not get all offended again and the 82 year old wasn't subjected to Saudi Arabian style justice, just the twat who felt the need to try and kick someone in the head first.

Didn't John Mcdonnell advocate the assassination of Thatcher and quote Mao?? What about Lenin??

Let's not pretend that the left isn't up for a bit of violence.

 

[blueinsa]

This is yet again though the issue some of us have with the Climate debate, Greta Thunberg and XR.

Disagree and you are a demon but thats the design of the campaign with old men, Greta etc the face and how dare you attack them or their beliefs.

Very clever of those behind it all who are political anarchists.

 

[blueinsa]

Didn't John Mcdonnell advocate the assassination of Thatcher and quote Mao?? What about Lenin??

Let's not pretend that the left isn't up for a bit of violence.

Yeah but Tories are cunts going off this place so its only fair.

Just dont say Humbug!

 

[Rascal]

It sent a clear message to the masses. If some idiot purposely gets in your way give him a good slapping.

And now you are coming out as being against legitimate protest.

You are painting quite a picture

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I don't see how this can be classed as peaceful when they are deliberately disrupting so many people's lives and costing people so much money. Pretty poor form really. There are better ways to protest and democratic means to get the results you want.

 

[Rascal]

The whole XR lot are middle class, affluent, doing-very-nicely-thank-you liberals who's world viewpoint can be boiled down to "the world would be a better place if there were less plebs in it".

My whole point from the start of this thread has been if that is the case, then it is still there democratic right to protest. Thats what's I support. I despise the DFLA and Yaxley's halfwitted EDL but 100% support their right to protest, even when they are defiling our beautiful city with their stupidity.

You do not have to support the cause, but you can support the democratic legitimacy of the right to protest.

A lot of posters are confusing that right to protest with the cause, but in my mind they are two different issues.

 

[bluemooners09]

And now you are coming out as being against legitimate protest.

You are painting quite a picture

Obviously the majority are against the 'legitimate protest' it lasted about 30 seconds. The beating they took lasted longer.
Also the protest was illegal.-

 

[bluemoon32]

What a charming post.

A Bluemoon poster advocating Saudi Arabian style justice towards an 82 year old man.

Oh god, you must be offended all the time on here.
It was said in jest