F*** the Jubilee

[argyle]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

I'm very firmly on the Royalist side of this argument.

What the republican supporters on here have to realise is that democracy and government does require funding. This is a small amount of funding by the scale of the Uk economy and the royal family is part of that.

See here: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/Royalfinances/Overview.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHouseho ... rview.aspx</a>

Put in those terms, very little is paid by the taxpayer. Even the Civil List is only there to cover expenses.

Another aspect to all this is that their funding is a drop in the ocean compared to the Billions upon Billions wasted by politicians and bankers.

Thats not to say we don't need MPs and government of course but there are far bigger priorities than ripping up our constitution.

As the saying goes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

It is broken :( government, the lot, its all fucked.

I doubt mankind has the stomach to right it's self.

Our constitution isn't broken. Would you prefer a stalinist dictatorship or Syrian style government?

Bringing evolution into the argument is a whole new can of worms.

Why do some royalists use this Non Sequitur argument. Against a monarchy = must want a Stalinist dictatorship.

I've got nothing against the royals as people, I just don't understand how people can bow down, hand over their money and doff their caps in this day and age to a hereditary family that rule the roost not because they earned it but were given it because they were born into a certain family.

In any case, for the royalists I hope you had a good day with your parties or whatever.

 

[pauldominic]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

It is broken :( government, the lot, its all fucked.

I doubt mankind has the stomach to right it's self.

Our constitution isn't broken. Would you prefer a stalinist dictatorship or Syrian style government?

Bringing evolution into the argument is a whole new can of worms.

Why do some royalists use this Non Sequitur argument. Against a monarchy = must want a Stalinist dictatorship.

I've got nothing against the royals as people, I just don't understand how people can bow down, hand over their money and doff their caps in this day and age to a hereditary family that rule the roost not because they earned it but were given it because they were born into a certain family.

In any case, for the royalists I hope you had a good day with your parties or whatever.

I can't believe you've put that interpretation on my post and I don't know where to start with a reply.

 

[totallywired]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

Don`t forget it was this royal family that fucked diana up. When she died the outpouring of grief for her was also matched by the hatred of the royals. These are not normal nice people who will help a family member, they are horrible scroungers.
Did any of you royal watchers think they were wondeful when they did this to di?

 

[pauldominic]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

I hope he has the sense not to be and allows William to be King , if that's possible?

You can't pick and chose, you either have a hereditary monarchy or you don't.

So wrong.

-- Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:44 am --

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Depends what you want the government to do. Anyway, for me, the whole issue is, like slavery, a moral issue. It would not matter how much funding we lost by abolishing slavery -it had to go. Same principle applies to monarchy.

And we don't really have a consitution

Indeed I agree. The argument I would have is on the moral front. I see nothing morally wrong with the current arrangements.

Oliver Cromwell would also agree with me. He was never against the idea of a monarchy, but simply the excess use of power.

-- Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:27 am --

You are fucking unreal.

You haven't a clue. Not a fucking clue what you are on about with the evolution comment.

Oh here go again. I really seriously *cannot* be bothered to argue with you about evolution. You are wearisome beyond belief.

Rather that than whatever you are. You really need help.

You're right in one respect. I ought to know better by now that posting opinions on subjects like this will attract snide, jeering comments from people like you.

 

[mick10]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

Don`t forget it was this royal family that fucked diana up. When she died the outpouring of grief for her was also matched by the hatred of the royals. These are not normal nice people who will help a family member, they are horrible scroungers.
Did any of you royal watchers think they were wondeful when they did this to di?

What?
The behavoiur of this particular family towards their Daughter-in-law is no different to the behaviour of millions of families in the UK no the world towards their Daughter/Son/sister/brother blah blah in-law. If you dislike someone in your extended family then the cast is set.Charles didn't love or fell out off love with her. It never ends well this type of thing though the ending of this one was unfortunate and extreme though could hardly be put down too the Royal Family.

 

[totallywired]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

Don`t forget it was this royal family that fucked diana up. When she died the outpouring of grief for her was also matched by the hatred of the royals. These are not normal nice people who will help a family member, they are horrible scroungers.
Did any of you royal watchers think they were wondeful when they did this to di?

What?
The behavoiur of this particular family towards their Daughter-in-law is no different to the behaviour of millions of families in the UK no the world towards their Daughter/Son/sister/brother blah blah in-law. If you dislike someone in your extended family then the cast is set.Charles didn't love or fell out off love with her. It never ends well this type of thing though the ending of this one was unfortunate and extreme though could hardly be put down too the Royal Family.

Used, chewed up and spit out by the oddest family since the Addams family. The shit she endured went on for years while charlie went off talking to trees. Don`t rewrite history, it happened.

 

[mick10]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

Don`t forget it was this royal family that fucked diana up. When she died the outpouring of grief for her was also matched by the hatred of the royals. These are not normal nice people who will help a family member, they are horrible scroungers.
Did any of you royal watchers think they were wondeful when they did this to di?

What?
The behavoiur of this particular family towards their Daughter-in-law is no different to the behaviour of millions of families in the UK no the world towards their Daughter/Son/sister/brother blah blah in-law. If you dislike someone in your extended family then the cast is set.Charles didn't love or fell out off love with her. It never ends well this type of thing though the ending of this one was unfortunate and extreme though could hardly be put down too the Royal Family.

Used, chewed up and spit out by the oddest family since the Addams family. The shit she endured went on for years while charlie went off talking to trees. Don`t rewrite history, it happened.

Read what I wrote!
I never once said she wasn't on the receiving end I said it goes on everywhere and Diana wasn't an exception to the rule. The ending turned out bad though I still don't see how the Royals manifested the final outcome.

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

Don`t forget it was this royal family that fucked diana up. When she died the outpouring of grief for her was also matched by the hatred of the royals. These are not normal nice people who will help a family member, they are horrible scroungers.
Did any of you royal watchers think they were wondeful when they did this to di?

What?
The behavoiur of this particular family towards their Daughter-in-law is no different to the behaviour of millions of families in the UK no the world towards their Daughter/Son/sister/brother blah blah in-law. If you dislike someone in your extended family then the cast is set.Charles didn't love or fell out off love with her. It never ends well this type of thing though the ending of this one was unfortunate and extreme though could hardly be put down too the Royal Family.

Used, chewed up and spit out by the oddest family since the Addams family. The shit she endured went on for years while charlie went off talking to trees. Don`t rewrite history, it happened.

She didn't hang around for long though did she. Once she was off the leash she got dicked by all and sundry.

 

[johnmc]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

I'm very firmly on the Royalist side of this argument.

What the republican supporters on here have to realise is that democracy and government does require funding. This is a small amount of funding by the scale of the Uk economy and the royal family is part of that.

See here: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/Royalfinances/Overview.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHouseho ... rview.aspx</a>

Put in those terms, very little is paid by the taxpayer. Even the Civil List is only there to cover expenses.

Another aspect to all this is that their funding is a drop in the ocean compared to the Billions upon Billions wasted by politicians and bankers.

Thats not to say we don't need MPs and government of course but there are far bigger priorities than ripping up our constitution.

As the saying goes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

The figures don't include the cost for security which is undoubtedly the biggest expense

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Re: F*** the Jubliee

What?
The behavoiur of this particular family towards their Daughter-in-law is no different to the behaviour of millions of families in the UK no the world towards their Daughter/Son/sister/brother blah blah in-law. If you dislike someone in your extended family then the cast is set.Charles didn't love or fell out off love with her. It never ends well this type of thing though the ending of this one was unfortunate and extreme though could hardly be put down too the Royal Family.

Used, chewed up and spit out by the oddest family since the Addams family. The shit she endured went on for years while charlie went off talking to trees. Don`t rewrite history, it happened.

She didn't hang around for long though did she. Once she was off the leash she got dicked by all and sundry.

I'm one of the few English men who didn't get to stick my wet into the people's princess. There's about 6 or so of us dotted around the country.