F1 Season 2021

[svennis pennis]

If they’d both gone in in the same time and position then they’d both come out in the same positions. I think LH was 4 seconds ahead at the time so wouldn’t make much of a difference. Double stacking has an effect though as that may have put Bottas a few seconds behind if they got jammed. But, again, a 4 second gap would have covered both cars.

The gap was around 1.7 seconds. You could clearly see Bottas was slowing intentionally.

 

[domalino]

meaningless. It's not a punishment unless it actually punishes him. Should be a 10 place grid drop. All he has to do is punt Lewis off next week and he's champion because it'll be a "racing incident or time penalty" which will be meaningless if Lewis gets 0 points.

It's not meaningless.

For a start, it's clearly attributed blame and shown to everyone that Verstappen brake checked Hamilton and caused the crash. That's going to affect the feeling around him in the paddock and like I said before, I think this will be the race that turns a lot of people who were for "letting them race" against him. He is quickly running out of people who want to defend his driving, and that the change in media coverage that comes with it does seem to matter to the FIA.

Secondly, the whole reason we've wanted his driving to be penalised is to discourage it, right? We are fed up of his "yield or crash" way of racing. If he doesn't change for next week after twice being sanctioned for bad driving by the stewards in one race, he'll get punished and lose the WDC.

Also, he did get penalty points, and no he can't punt Lewis off the track to end the WDC because these days, that would lead to a points deduction. Given they're level, any points deduction would forfeit the WDC.

 

[svennis pennis]

It's not meaningless.

For a start, it's clearly attributed blame and shown to everyone that Verstappen brake checked Hamilton and caused the crash. That's going to affect the feeling around him in the paddock and like I said before, I think this will be the race that turns a lot of people who were for "letting them race" against him. He is quickly running out of people who want to defend his driving, and that the change in media coverage that comes with it does seem to matter to the FIA.

Secondly, the whole reason we've wanted his driving to be penalised is to discourage it, right? We are fed up of his "yield or crash" way of racing. If he doesn't change for next week after twice being sanctioned for bad driving by the stewards in one race, he'll get punished and lose the WDC.

Also, he did get penalty points, and no he can't punt Lewis off the track to end the WDC because these days, that would lead to a points deduction. Given they're level, any points deduction would forfeit the WDC.

I think we’d see Max disqualified from the championship entirely, much like Schumacher was in 1997.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

It's not meaningless.

For a start, it's clearly attributed blame and shown to everyone that Verstappen brake checked Hamilton and caused the crash. That's going to affect the feeling around him in the paddock and like I said before, I think this will be the race that turns a lot of people who were for "letting them race" against him.

Secondly, the whole reason we've wanted his driving to be penalised is to discourage it, right? We are fed up of his "yield or crash" way of racing. If he doesn't change for next week after twice being sanctioned for bad driving by the stewards in one race, he'll get punished and lose the WDC.

Also, he did get penalty points, and no he can't punt Lewis off the track to end the WDC because these days, that would lead to a points deduction. Given they're level, any points deduction would forfeit the WDC.

If he takes Lewis out next week, he will be crowned WDC whatever justification people try to throw at it. He's gotten away with far too much for the investment in him to be sent down the toilet next week. This is all posturing and they don't care, or the law would have been laid down on him so severely that Hamilton would already be world champion.

All he has to do is make it look vaguely a racing incident and he's alright.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I think we’d see Max disqualified from the championship entirely, much like Schumacher was in 1997.

no chance. Schumacher was only done for that because he "got away" with Adelaide 94. And I'll add, that was also meaningless because he'd already lost the title due to the crash anyway.

 

[svennis pennis]

no chance. Schumacher was only done for that because he "got away" with Adelaide 94. And I'll add, that was also meaningless because he'd already lost the title due to the crash anyway.

Max would absolutely not get away with simply taking Lewis out. Not a chance.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

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So, it was purposeful.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

The gap was around 1.7 seconds. You could clearly see Bottas was slowing intentionally.

I’m talking between LH and MV.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Max would absolutely not get away with simply taking Lewis out. Not a chance.

he just did, twice.

Bottas got a 5 place penalty in Hungary for taking out drivers. Max got a grid penalty in Monza for causing a collision. Where's his grid penalty for Abu Dhabi for "causing a collision"?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

he just did, twice.

Bottas got a 5 place penalty in Hungary for taking out drivers. Max got a grid penalty in Monza for causing a collision. Where's his grid penalty for Abu Dhabi for "causing a collision"?

The only time I’ve not seen a grid penalty was when Vettel, in the Ferrari, ran into the back of Hamilton. I’m sure Hamilton also got a penalty for something else which was also way out of line.

What‘s intersecting is that RB decided to have a strategic approach to the overtake, deciding to forget about sportsmanship and accept any recognition of wrong doing.