FA confirm Southgate will stay on until after Euro 2024 (p 101)

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Would your team and line up satisfy England fans ? You’d get pelters for playing Trippier over Shaw for starters

And when you get your chosen team and tactics to the QF of a World Cup and you lose despite being the better team and missing a crucial penalty - everyone will say it’s your team selections fault and your a shit manager

I wouldn’t care about pelters.

Shaw was the problem, watch his distribution.

Have you not seen what Pep has done with the left back position that hasn’t been filled for years.
 
I wouldn’t care about pelters.

Shaw was the problem, watch his distribution.

Have you not seen what Pep has done with the left back position that hasn’t been filled for years.

In your opinion

Most England fans would agree Shaw has been consistently good for England and has very high assist record
 
In your opinion

Most England fans would agree Shaw has been consistently good for England and has very high assist record

So why couldn’t we control the game versus France. Shaw never came inside like a modern full back, he cleared his lines. Same with Henderson up & down, clench your fist, shout come on.

What’s the result? Foden should have got a grip of the game. Ffs….

It’s important the fwd line press & defend from the front but it’s equally important that the tempo & build up plsy is controlled from defence & midfield.
 
Walker and Shaw are much better options at fullback.

Trippier is decent, but no more than that. Nice freekick on him, mind.

Walker & Trippier are better than Walker & Shaw.

I’ve not said the answer was Trippier I’ve said the balance of the team was shit. It was built to get to a quarter final.
 
So why couldn’t we control the game versus France. Shaw never came inside like a modern full back, he cleared his lines. Same with Henderson up & down, clench your fist, shout come on.

What’s the result? Foden should have got a grip of the game. Ffs….

It’s important the fwd line press & defend from the front but it’s equally important that the tempo & build up plsy is controlled from defence & midfield.

We were the better side
Created more chances
Had more possession and shots on target
Unlucky with a couple decisions
Missed penalty
Lloris saves

Most people were predicting a France win

So tactically I think we got it right - we just lost. It happens.
 
We were the better side
Created more chances
Had more possession and shots on target
Unlucky with a couple decisions
Missed penalty
Lloris saves

Most people were predicting a France win

So tactically I think we got it right - we just lost. It happens.

You keep saying that but in my opinion…..

We weren’t the better team but it was competitive & it could have gone either way.

We didn’t create as many good chances as France.

We were unlucky with a couple of decisions & lucky with a couple of decisions.

Bad luck comes into it but I don’t think we did enough to reduce the bad luck.

I would say city v Madrid was bad luck, that happens. It’s not about losing it’s the way you lose.

The reason I’m pissed off is I think he’s a very ordinary coach with the top job & best resources available & I think if he plays the French 10 times he loses 9.

It would be like us keeping Pelegríni as he won us a league, got us to a semi final of champs league. However if you want to be the best you should be looking & identifying how to continually get better.

City identified Pep, style of play, scouting, best coaches, best facilities.

They identified a really capable keeper in Hart was preventing us from playing from the back & controlling games. Again, another tough decision but vital. That’s what progressive coaching is about & without that we wouldn’t have been scoring over 100 goals a season & being widely known as the best team in the world. I’ve never complained about not winning the Champs league as I agree about bad luck, refereeing but do you think anyone thinks England are the best in the world.

I’m happy for Southgate to stay as a figure head but he really needs to lean on better coaches & there are loads who see the game differently that have served under Pep, Arteta, Klopp etc
 
You keep saying that but in my opinion…..

We weren’t the better team but it was competitive & it could have gone either way.

We didn’t create as many good chances as France.

We were unlucky with a couple of decisions & lucky with a couple of decisions.

Bad luck comes into it but I don’t think we did enough to reduce the bad luck.

I would say city v Madrid was bad luck, that happens. It’s not about losing it’s the way you lose.

The reason I’m pissed off is I think he’s a very ordinary coach with the top job & best resources available & I think if he plays the French 10 times he loses 9.

It would be like us keeping Pelegríni as he won us a league, got us to a semi final of champs league. However if you want to be the best you should be looking & identifying how to continually get better.

City identified Pep, style of play, scouting, best coaches, best facilities.

They identified a really capable keeper in Hart was preventing us from playing from the back & controlling games. Again, another tough decision but vital. That’s what progressive coaching is about & without that we wouldn’t have been scoring over 100 goals a season & being widely known as the best team in the world. I’ve never complained about not winning the Champs league as I agree about bad luck, refereeing but do you think anyone thinks we are the best in the world.

I’m happy for Southgate to stay as a figure head but he really needs to lean on better coaches & there are loads who see the game differently that have served under Pep, Arteta, Klopp etc

Some good points and a well reasoned post
 
Some good points and a well reasoned post

I actually think Rangers have got a really good English coach in Beale & there are many more like him. They are now taking big jobs when previously they were making ordinary managers look good.
 
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