Fairer Loyalty Points Scheme?

Loyalty points started before 2003, and tracking for it about 5 years before that. I believe that if you were a season ticket holder for the five consecutive years prior to the move to Eastlands you started with 2,500 points. Don't quote me on that because I'm unsure of the exact details but it is something approximating that.
 
The loyalty point system is on the whole a pretty fair way of doing things. There are a few things that could be done to improve it and my suggestions would be:

1.) For away matches allow applications prior to ticket sales. That way all the fans that wanted a ticket for the match will be awarded loyalty points regardless of whether they actually qualified for a ticket. This would avoid the situation where the high demand matches are only attended by supporters with the most loyalty points who then get another 10 or 20 point advantage over the supporters who missed out. This system could just be introduced for high demand games only if it was to much hassle for every game.

2.) The ticket allocation to supporters clubs should be scrapped or vastly reduced for high demand games. 'Loyal' supporters are prevented from attending 'big' games because someone in a supporters club has managed to get a ticket through an OSC. Also tickets allocated through corporate are usually just sold on to mates who can't get tickets through the normal channels so it would make sense to review the allocation to corporate facility holders.

3.) As has been mentioned there should be some preference added for tickets in the latter rounds of a cup competition to supporters who have attended the earlier rounds.

No system will please everyone but the current one is OK save for a bit of fine tuning.
 
Skashion said:
Loyalty points started before 2003, and tracking for it about 5 years before that. I believe that if you were a season ticket holder for the five consecutive years prior to the move to Eastlands you started with 2,500 points. Don't quote me on that because I'm unsure of the exact details but it is something approximating that.

Sounds about right if my memory serves me right mate.
 
blueinsa said:
Skashion said:
Loyalty points started before 2003, and tracking for it about 5 years before that. I believe that if you were a season ticket holder for the five consecutive years prior to the move to Eastlands you started with 2,500 points. Don't quote me on that because I'm unsure of the exact details but it is something approximating that.

Sounds about right if my memory serves me right mate.
I think it was 1,500 but i'm not 100%
 
blueinsa said:
This thread smack of a few selfish posters who are shitting their pants at the thought of not getting a ticket for a possible semi final or final and are now crying how unfair it all is to younger fans like themselves.

We have a system in place that rewards loyalty and if you are a season card holder of a good few years that has also attended a fair few away games, you will have no issue getting a ticket and rightly so at it clearly shows that your loyalty is there.

For those that don't have the points, i sympathise but your time will come when you have the points and newer fans wont and i will take a guess that you wont want a change then!

Spot on, i have no issue with the system and I am only in the 4000s but thats because i only do a few away games a year.
I have been a season ticket holder long before the tracking began and have never missed a home cup game in any competition. Yes i would be pissed if there were not enough tickets for me for a game i wanted to go to (and this has happened several times in the last few years) but i have to believe that anyone who did get a ticket in front of me has deserved it based on the known criteria so they must have been to more games than me. (Supp Clubs issue aside)
 
GStar said:
SWP's back said:
It wouldn't be punishing anyone mate though. Over a ten year period, evryone would have the same chance and any fan that goes the majority over a ten year period is hardly "short term".

Plus those that have shown "long term" loyalty would not lose out so long as they still go.

To catch up at present would cost about £4k per year (inc travelling etc) for 20 years to do all home and aways and slowly catch up by about 100 points per season.

True, i'm just thinking in terms of someone who's now late 30's went home and away for 15 years, now because of commitments can only do, say, 80% of games, he might be a bit miffed that he's going down the pecking order.

Although, 10 years is a long time, its not really 'short term' as i suggested earlier... i don't think i'd have any compaint personally if they announced such a scheme.
Let's do it then.

;-)
 
Would it would make any difference having a ten year rolling average?

The ones with the highest points now would keep buying tickets for every game and, for the ones they aren't going to, sell them on. We saw Aris away tickets being offered even when the club were taking them back.

So the ones with the highest points now would keep buying over the next ten years and retain their place at the top of the list.

The ones who can't get them now still won't be able to get them and therefore won't be getting any more points than they are doing now and still be unable to catch the ones who are getting them every game.

If that makes sense? Im tired and drained - 've been trying to decorate a bedroom in a hundred year old house - the wallpaper comes off easy enough - trouble is so the does the plaster. Not one ninety degree corner in the whole house.
 
howfen blue said:
blueinsa said:
Sounds about right if my memory serves me right mate.
I think it was 1,500 but i'm not 100%

Loyalty points system started in 1999. I remember buying my first season ticket at 13 to get so i had enough points to get a wembley ticket for the playoffs.
 
blueinsa said:
This thread smack of a few selfish posters who are shitting their pants at the thought of not getting a ticket for a possible semi final or final and are now crying how unfair it all is to younger fans like themselves.

We have a system in place that rewards loyalty and if you are a season card holder of a good few years that has also attended a fair few away games, you will have no issue getting a ticket and rightly so at it clearly shows that your loyalty is there.

For those that don't have the points, i sympathise but your time will come when you have the points and newer fans wont and i will take a guess that you wont want a change then!

That's a little unfair. I started the thread and have no problems with my points. They got me everygame I wanted this season apart from utd away and Blackpool. It's about trying to ensure that younger loyal fans are punished simply for being born later.

The current system only started when we moved to coms and newer fans will never be able to catch up. A rolling system has to be fairer and doesn't preclude older fans from staying at the top so long as they keep going.
 

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