False 9

Tugay One Cup said:
What a bizarre question. The OP has asked who fellow blues think is capable of successfully playing the false nine role in our current squad. Instead, it's turned into a circular debate about terminology.

For those who are seemingly allergic to the term or fail to grasp the meaning of it, there's a plethora of other threads on this site.
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+1

Hear, hear.

Nasri was a possible "false 9." Now that he's left... beats me who could fill that role - especially since we have an excellent traditional striker in 'Nacho.
 
tramazi said:
Does it really matter that much?

False 9, no attackers etc etc. It's all the same and surely only if yoou manage the fkin side you need to know this ?

Anyway, I want to know why the OP asked this? Why does this matter at City ?
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It matters because we may just see it next week and the fact pulled the same trick at the Bernabeu with Barca.
 
Terra Passenger said:
+1

Hear, hear.

Nasri was a possible "false 9." Now that he's left... beats me who could fill that role - especially since we have an excellent traditional striker in 'Nacho.
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Its Silva mate he is ideal for that role and I am sure he played there regularly for Spain. Ive got an inking he will play there next week. Even more likely if Gundogan is fit.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
The rest of your post was, in my own vernacular, utter shite, but why the fuck would i disagree with this bit?? We will fight for evermore. Should do 'em again this year, maybe not sick swan levels but we should batter them. Nothing special about their bollocks brand of footy, any other club and a guaranteed easy 3 points to a team like ours. But it's the scum so, not that I ever bet on City (don't want to jinx us), "all bets are off" as it were.

Contain big nose and rug head, keep possession and take our chances when they come.
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Excellent!

This is awesome.

Please explain.

Are you a troll?

Or simply confused?

Let's start by you defining the term "false 9" and providing evidence for why you believe that whatever definition you concoct is in common parlance.

Oh, and here's a "CAKE" for your effort. Enjoy!

CAKE.
 
I'm totally drunk, LOL - and likely to pass out soon. If the troll replies, let's have the majority sensible Blue Mooners explain to the troll why he's out of his mind. ;-)
 
franksinatra said:
Its Silva mate he is ideal for that role and I am sure he played there regularly for Spain. Ive got an inking he will play there next week. Even more likely if Gundogan is fit.
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Silva is awesome at retaining the ball. And making killler passes. Silva is FUCKING GOLD! :-)

But as a "false 9" - Silva is pretty bad at finishing. And I haven't seen his ability to take on defenders 1-on-1 like a "false 9" is able to. Silva is a "10" - and is totally most suited to that role, far above anyone in our side, given that we're playing Pep's style (otherwise I'd favor KDB as the 10) - with Nasri gone, I don't see] any "false 9" players in our side (though I've watched zero of Sani or Gundogan - but from what I've read I'm pretty comfortable ruling then out from a false 9 position).

Don't get me wrong... Silva is awesome... at a 10 or, with some improvement, dual 8. As a "false 9" - Silva doesn't cut it at all for me. Think Messi, Suarez or Nasri as your "false 9."
 
Pissed or not, if anyone is trolling here muthafucker it's you. I'd be a a bit sad to spend my Internet time for the past God knows how many years talking about stuff I hate.

I won't humour you and give a definition of a false 9, because imho it's a bullshit term, as you know. Whatever I said wouldn't be good enough anyway, so I'll leave that one ta. In the meantime, try harder when trying to fish.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
Pissed or not, if anyone is trolling here muthafucker it's you. I'd be a a bit sad to spend my Internet time for the past God knows how many years talking about stuff I hate.

I won't humour you and give a definition of a false 9, because imho it's a bullshit term, as you know. Whatever I said wouldn't be good enough anyway, so I'll leave that one ta. In the meantime, try harder when trying to fish.
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Well I haven't passed out yet, LOL.

So you're saying that you cannot explain what a "false 9" is.

Yup - if you can't explain the term at all, you're likely just confused. I recommend this site to clear away your confusion.

Er,.. you can read English, can't you? If not, I've no clue how to explain this to you.
 
tramazi said:
Does it really matter that much?

False 9, no attackers etc etc. It's all the same and surely only if yoou manage the fkin side you need to know this ?

Anyway, I want to know why the OP asked this? Why does this matter at City ?
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Why does it matter?
Pep plays false nines. Not all the time but it's an important part of his repertoire. He did it at Barcelona, he did it at Bayern. He'll do it here, I'm 90% sure. Just a matter of when, and with Aguero likely suspended and Bony gone, it could be even more useful.
 
MarsLlama said:
Why does it matter?
Pep plays false nines. Not all the time but it's an important part of his repertoire. He did it at Barcelona, he did it at Bayern. He'll do it here, I'm 90% sure. Just a matter of when, and with Aguero likely suspended and Bony gone, it could be even more useful.
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Yes, the "false 9" is a favorite of Pep's and is extremely valuable given that you have the right player in your side to play this position.

For me, Nasri was perfect - but he's no longer in our side.

Next up, I guess is KDB - but he's got a lot of flaws if asked to play that position - not great on beating set defenders one-on-one, not world-class at quick one-twos to defeat set defenders.

KDB is awesome - and is an excellent scoring midfielder/winger. But he's no false 9 IMO.

I think we'll go with 'Nacho in a traditional 9 role until Aguero returns.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
Not can't, won't. And yes I'm perfectly fluent with the written word in our fucking language. It seems you aren't.
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LOL.

You still refuse to define what a "false 9" means with citations for why your interpretation is correct. Instead, it's just troll, troll, troll from you.

In contrast to you, I've provided a site with a clear definition of the term "false 9" and have provided an analysis of our current squad and it's suitability to playing the "false 9."

From you, all I get is "troll, troll, troll."

Are you trolling for another "cake"? If so, here it is...

CAKE
 
Terra Passenger said:
LOL.

You still refuse to define what a "false 9" means with citations for why your interpretation is correct. Instead, it's just troll, troll, troll from you.

In contrast to you, I've provided a site with a clear definition of the term "false 8" and have provided an analysis of our current squad and it's suitability to playing the "false 9."

From you, all I get is "troll, troll, troll."
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I thought you said you could read?? To reiterate, false 9 is a bullshit term. So why in the name of fuck would i try to define it, hey?? Especially when asked in such a condescending manner, by someone who is the epitomy of why this bullshit term has come to the forefront. An armchair analyst who's likely never kicked a ball. You and your 500 posts since 2012 can fuck right off. And you call me the troll... Ffs
 
A false 9 is a player that is the focal point of the attack like your traditional 9 would be, but who plays from deeper, leaving the opposition CBs with no-one to mark/not knowing who to mark. Think Totti, Messi(under pep) or even Fabregas for Spain vs Italy 2012 Euro final.
They have to be creative as well as having an eye for goal, traditionally deployed in a 4-3-3 the wide men would come in from wide and make the runs in behind that the 9 would usually make hence the need for whoever is playing the role be able to play those defence splitting passes and because they are deeper it is meant to drag defenders out of position to close them etc thus leaving space for wide men to run into.
 
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