FC United Thread

Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Another way of looking at FCUM is like 4 members of a successful band splitting up. Let's call them The Stretford Enders.

The bass player (who neither wrote or sang the songs) wants to remain in the music business but the other three can't be bothered anymore.

So the bass guitarist gets a group of fellow musicians around him and the new members talk about writing their own material, but the bass player doesn't want the hassle of writing and learning new songs and starting out at the bottom and working their way up again. Instead, he wants to go straight out on tour performing all the hits (with him on vocals) The Stretford Enders made, .calling themselves The New Stretford Enders.

The other three members object and loyal fans object but out on tour they go and on average 5000 turn up at gigs across the country. Over time the band members want to write new material but the bass player asks why? The punters only want to hear the classics and are turning up in their 1000's.

One by one the band members leave but to be replaced by others. By now they are still pulling in 4000 a gig but that slowly drops to 3000. The novelty is wearing off and the band head for the festival circuit. They get a decent reception but by now even the bass player knows no one has turned up to specifically see them and that he's flogged the band to death as crowds at their own gigs are dwindling further.

With no material or an identity of their own the band is never going to attract a new crowd but simply relying on the good will of those original loyal.fans trying.to cling to their youth of when the original band were a force.....

There is only so many times even the loyalist of fans will pay.to watch a tribute band - but in order to make it pay the band need to be touring more and it reaches saturation point and the gigs are becoming a loss.maker.
The bass player becomes bankrupt.....
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Hmm your analogy is flawed.
How about......
A succesful band get a new record label. For quite awhile the hits keep on coming so all the band are happy. Then, instead of number one in the charts they are second, maybe 4th so the bass guitarist goes off in huff. Because he has friends in the media and music world they back him and his new band. This band is styled exactly like his old band and they even sing the same songs. Others in the music/media world coerce institutions to financially back them as it would be great publicity.
The trouble is, the bass guitarist is a thief and a liar, whilst stealing the money donated/loaned he continues to con the gullible.
The gullible for their part still can't break away from the original band and continue to watch all the concerts on television. When the original band have a hit record they bore everyone in the pub how great they are. When a single flops, they bore everyone in the pub saying how great the new band are, footballs dead and it's sold its soul.
All the while though, this new band are like a whore addicted to smack. Desperately seeking money they beg, borrow (cough) steal money to keep the pathetic shit show going.
Eventually the gullible realise they are being fleeced and fuck off back to the original band that ergh they never said they despised and besides which, they've got a scruffy new manager.
All that's left is a few sad sacks moaning that City ruined everything and it's just not fair.


@Mad Eyed Screamer I think you are just to polite.
 
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M40_Sheriff said:
Hyde were also told to change their badge to blue, their home kit to blue, and all the seats in their stadium to blue. If this wasn't a major issue for them, then why since the partnership ended have Hyde gone back to wearing red, using red seats, having a red badge and using the name Hyde United...why not continue as Hyde FC in sky blue? It's not a major issue after all.
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Do you know why united are nicknamed the rags?

If it wasn’t for Manchester City FC they wouldn’t exist, know your history.
 
M40_Sheriff said:
There's a few things really on this topic that need deconstructing. Firstly, not sure why there's a topic about a non-league club. No idea why that would be a concern.There doesn't appear to be the same topics for Abbey Hey, Stalybridge, Hyde etc.

FC United never wanted to be based in Moston, or at Broadhurst Park. The club wanted to be based on Ten Acres Lane in Newton Heath. Planning permission was applied for, and there was an objection, from Manchester City Football Club, which led to the Broadhurst Park site being used. As a result of this objection, there ended up being a shortfall of around £1.4m that was unaccounted for - ultimately the council then footed the bill for this. FC United clearly haven't paid this back in full. From the figures people have kindly collected from freedom of information it would appear that FC United appear to have paid off around £400k-£500k over around a 10 year period. £40k-£50k a year or around £3.5k-£4.5k a month, possibly more considering interest. Suppose the irony of the situation is that all the things that people want to complain about - rinsing the council, being based in Moston etc - never would have happened if it wasn't for Manchester City Football Club, so when you trace it back with a bit of due dilligence that who is ultimtely to blame.

That Ten Acres Lane site that was original proposed is....still a piece of wasteland. So suppose again that can be attributed to Manchester City Football Club. On the face of it, it looks like Manchester City Council are actually in the pockets of the rich, not the poor, and are serving the interests of the rich foreign investor rather than the local Mancunian man. That's the price you pay for success though eh.

All FC United is is a bunch of fans who became disillusioned with the club they supported and top flight football. There's the argument that gets thrown about such as "Why not support another local non-league club". Why? Well why would you if you feel as if you have no affiliation to that club. Suppose fans could have gone to someone like Hyde United, but then they sold out and got bought by....you guessed it, Manchester City Football Club. Have to wonder how Hyde fans felt when that happened.

Should also be noted their playing budget is in the bottom 30% in their league. The council manage this and have a say in it, so ir removes the chance of any big budget spending.

Just worth thinking about that every complaint that is on here about FC United, other than the fanbase wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the actions of Manchester City Football Club and it's ownerships objection to the Ten Acres Lane site. So if Mancunians are missing out on council funding as it's claimed here, that's just a knock on effect of Manchester City's objecttion to a non-league club setting up. Suppose there's nothing more Mancunian than being the big rich guy standing in the way of the little guy though....
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Well if they/you don't want to be associated with the big rags and are all for amateur football why do you/ they sing anti City songs.
Why do you/they sing rag songs...
Now the rags have got a new manager and if they start winning games how many of your fans will fuck off back to the swamp?
Hope they go fucking bust.
 
blue by birth said:
Well if they/you don't want to be associated with the big rags and are all for amateur football why do you/ they sing anti City songs.
Why do you/they sing rag songs...
Now the rags have got a new manager and if they start winning games how many of your fans will fuck off back to the swamp?
Hope they go fucking bust.
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What I don't get is asking United (Glazers) if can they show the FA Cup final on a big screen on their ground

Jekyll and Hyde fans
 
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